Players In Stand off

Originally Posted by pete

If he wants to sell up he'll do it but not under pressure from inside or outside the club.

thats the key to it. And to those people who are trying to put him under pressure- get lost, we don't want you

Originally Posted by Éanna

thats the key to it. And to those people who are trying to put him under pressure- get lost, we don't want you

Anyone think that Pat Dolan is one of the people putting Lennox under pressure for his (Dolan's) own ends ?

Originally Posted by Éanna

thats the key to it. And to those people who are trying to put him under pressure- get lost, we don't want you

so who gave you the right to say who is and who isnt wanted in the cross

Well its obviously co-ordinated that the players all said the same thing at the same time. Their own idea, or "encouraged" by someone?

since we moved from bishopstown, the club have been talking about developing there own pitch and training facilities, what progress have we really made on this over the last number of years ! none ! if we truly are to be the biggest club in ireland surely we need to be moving in this direction off the field.

Having read his quotes you'd have to think Lennox is pretty píssed off with the players right now, that quote about how it would be nice if they went out and won something for a change and stopped complaining said a lot. They always say you should never wash your dirty linen in public, and to be honest I can't see their manager not having given his express or implied permission for them to go public. Too many of them have come forward for him not to be aware of it before they did it. Not good form from Dolan if that is the case in my opinion

Originally Posted by Longfordian

Having read his quotes you'd have to think Lennox is pretty píssed off with the players right now,

and vice-versa

Well comments from Dolan and the players recently certainly smack of getting their excuses in early. Seems like Lennox has issued a put up or shut up to the team....

Originally Posted by what biy!

ok the bishopstown affair bout the water was bad

bad????????????????

its a disgrace..

FFS they have hot showers in the a.u.l.

professional footballers shouldnt have to put up with that tripe

Originally Posted by Longfordian

I can't see their manager not having given his express or implied permission for them to go public. Too many of them have come forward for him not to be aware of it before they did it. Not good form from Dolan if that is the case in my opinion

I agree.
One of 2 things has happened here:
1. Dolan knew nothing about this, in which case the players responsible should be fined/punished for going to the papers.
2. Dolan DID know about it, in which case is nothing short of a disgrace, and it raises serious questions about his integrity.

Originally Posted by what biy!

all it was that somebody forgot to turn on the immersion . a honest mistake. it is definitly strange how they all went to different papers with the story of lack of facilities. why not go to lennox 1st and talk to him and find out what is happening behind the scenes in trying to fix this prob. going to the papers is only going to create tension in the camp and fighting among themselves and moral will be even lower.

went to lennox and couldnt get problem solved. has to be highlighted then . what better way than each going to a different newspaper.. drastic times call for drastic measures



to quote casegrande from corkcityfc.ie

Lennox is telling the players to get out there and win the League! You don't win leagues when your pre-season training is a game against Home Farm on a cabbage patch with no showers!

Originally Posted by Éanna

Dolan DID know about it, in which case is nothing short of a disgrace, and it raises serious questions about his integrity.

Dolan Out?

Originally Posted by Éanna

2. Dolan DID know about it, in which case is nothing short of a disgrace, and it raises serious questions about his integrity.

feckin hell eanna....its all dolans fault now

look closer to home an all the blame has to be layed with lennox

at least dolan has got balls and ambition... thats one thing that cant be said about lennox

Originally Posted by Peadar

Dolan Out?

I won't rush to judgement, because I don't know the facts. All I do know is that a number of players are NOT in agreement with the course of action being taken by those who went to the papers, and are very angry about it. If Dolan is allowing some players to do what they want, and speak "on behalf" of the others- what kind of way is that to manage a football club? Dolan has done a great job as manager for the last 2 years. I just want to see him get on with managing- no more, no less.

Originally Posted by Éanna

I won't rush to judgement, because I don't know the facts. All I do know is that a number of players are NOT in agreement with the course of action being taken by those who went to the papers, and are very angry about it. If Dolan is allowing some players to do what they want, and speak "on behalf" of the others- what kind of way is that to manage a football club? Dolan has done a great job as manager for the last 2 years. I just want to see him get on with managing- no more, no less.

dont believe these posts about dolan now

open your eyes and take off the blinkers...

we have a chairman thats doing an inadequate job

Originally Posted by thecorner

dont believe these posts about dolan now

As I said, I don't know whether to believe it or not.

Originally Posted by thecorner

open your eyes and take off the blinkers...

no blinkers here. you know me well enough to know that.

Originally Posted by thecorner

we have a chairman thats doing an inadequate job

Thats a matter of opinion. I think we have a Chairman who's doing a very good job in very difficult circumstances, and that job is being made more difficult by his employees whinging to the papers

Originally Posted by Éanna

, and that job is being made more difficult by his employees whinging to the papers

and if he is the chairman you believe he is, he should be above gooing to the papers

its all well and good players going to the papers(maybe hastily) but when your chairman goes, there is something wrong.

he shouldnt have to use the media in his slagging match

chairmen should do this behind closed doors.. he is involved in business long enough to know this

Originally Posted by what biy!

he didnt go to the papers 1st it was the players. he is giving his side and if he didnt u would be the 1st to say why is he staying silent. no win situation so!

he replied to the players...no matter what the circumstances are, a chairman should never go public criticisng players... only adds fuel to the fire

Originally Posted by thecorner

he replied to the players...no matter what the circumstances are, a chairman should never go public criticisng players... only adds fuel to the fire

I don't think ANYONE should have gone to the papers, Brian Lennox included. Some people were offering the excuse that the players felt they had no option- maybe Brian felt the same? None of us know whats really going on, but I for one just feel like banging all their heads together- now is no time for egos.

"if you ask me the players dont know how lucky they are to be making a decent living out of football, i wish they would just get on with the job in hand and try to win some silverware this season" wouldnt go down well with players

"to be honest,i dont want to hear any more excuses before a ball is kicked this season"basically telling them to shut up

"i cant really understand the players attitudes when we have rochestown pk,stiofan niofa,deerpark,mardyke and venues like garryduff,the farm and bishopstown at our disposal" cant believe hes actually boasting about our training facilities