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Thread: Players In Stand off

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    todays mirror about training facilities and says dolan had to get the players to change their minds about going on strike

    lennox would wanna take a good look at the way things are been run. if he cant stand the heat...get out of the kitchen

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    Players In Stand off

    According to a text aleret from o2 Cork City's players are in a stand off with the club's board over the standard of training facilities at deerpark school. They have to use a gaa pitch ( ).
    Last edited by kevincronin2000; 24/02/2005 at 9:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevincronin2000
    According to a text aleret from o2 Cork City's players are in a stand off with the club's board over the standard of training facilities at deerpark school. They have to use a gaa pitch ( ).
    They've been using that for years now haven't they?

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    I have to admit using the "pitch" at Bishipstown is hardly ideal for pre-season game for a "pro" outfit. The Game against Dublin City would have been more benificial if it was played on a proper pitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    They've been using that for years now haven't they?
    Yes, but it can't be impressive for any potential new signings.
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    Cork City players upset at training facilities
    24/02/2005 - 9:49:57 AM

    Cork City’s players are in a major standoff with the club’s board over the standard of training facilities.

    City’s players are unhappy with the standard of facilities at the club’s rented accommodation at Deerpark school in Cork, where the club is forced to train on a GAA pitch, and the players have voiced their concerns to management.

    Striker John O’Flynn, speaking on behalf of the squad, said: “We wanted proper facilities, proper equipment, and it has not materialised. The problems are easily rectified. Stuff like the standard of the pitch, the balls and equipment are not up to scratch.”

    The players have told manager Pat Dolan and club chairman Brian Lennox of the problems and the club has insisted it will do everything in its power to improve matters.
    breakingnews.ie

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    There's an article with Gamble in todays Sun saying the same thing. So if O'Flynn was elected to speak on behalf of the squad, why is Gamble talking to the papers as well? I wonder who put them up to this? They all KNEW what the situation was when they signed for club, they all KNEW that the club wants to improve things, and they all KNEW it would take time. They're well paid professionals, its about time they stopped whinging and got on with the job. If they don't like it, they can leave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    well paid professionals,

    and its about time they were treated like professionals

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    and its about time they were treated like professionals
    I agree. I'm not defending the lack of training facilities. I've ben unhappy about it as long as you or anyone else. It needs sorting. But what good is threatening to go on strike just before the start of the season going to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    It needs sorting.
    It certainly does need sorting, but it's important that the best, longterm solution is sought. There's no point rushing into some half baked, quick fix just to stop the players from going on strike.

    Ideally, the training facility would be a joint venture with local business people who created a sports complex which could generate its own revenue by being available to other sporting groups.

    All weather playing areas, and indoor training area, a gym facility, sports medicine specialists, all in one location. It's not an unrealistic notion.

    We have a strong sporting tradition in Cork and indeed, in Munster.
    If we had enough business ambition we could make Cork the sporting capital of Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    . There's no point rushing into some half baked,
    rushing??????????????

    this is going on years...any slower and they will be going backwards

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    If the standard of training equipment and balls aren't good enough that is ridiculous and the players are right to complain.

    The location of the training facilities and the standard of the pitch will take longer to sort out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    It certainly does need sorting, but it's important that the best, longterm solution is sought. There's no point rushing into some half baked, quick fix just to stop the players from going on strike.

    Ideally, the training facility would be a joint venture with local business people who created a sports complex which could generate its own revenue by being available to other sporting groups.

    All weather playing areas, and indoor training area, a gym facility, sports medicine specialists, all in one location. It's not an unrealistic notion.

    We have a strong sporting tradition in Cork and indeed, in Munster.
    If we had enough business ambition we could make Cork the sporting capital of Ireland.
    Agreed. When Lennox took over, it wasn't like there were people queuing up to bid for the club, was it? IMO, the Cork business community isn't interested in CCFC unfortunately. Looks like the solution is for everyone who cares for CCFC to circle the wagons and fight this battle ourselves. Doesn't look like anyone else will.

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    sorry now lads. i played football with leeside down in little island and how many of you have seen the facilities down there. would put most EL clubs to shame and this is an a.u.l. side. if a club the size of cork city cannot match or better those facilities there is something wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    rushing??????????????

    this is going on years...any slower and they will be going backwards
    it has been. But why didn't they say something last season. Or at the end of last season. Why now? 3 weeks before the season kicks off? The current board (i.e. Lennox) has only been there 2 years. He had to sort out the mess left by the last board, and has done a great job getting a lot of things right. He's said he wants to sort out training facilities, but he needs time and money to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    sorry now lads. i played football with leeside down in little island and how many of you have seen the facilities down there. would put most EL clubs to shame and this is an a.u.l. side. if a club the size of cork city cannot match or better those facilities there is something wrong
    there is something very wrong. The majority of Cork's sporting public don't give a rats ass about CCFC. And the club is suffering because of years of neglect- since bishopstown, there was hardly a penny put into the club, no attempt to improve facilities until Lennox took over. Nearly a decade of no investment- how is he meant to put that right in 2 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    Nearly a decade of no investment- how is he meant to put that right in 2 years?
    as i was saying about leeside...this is an a.u.l. club with no income

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    as i was saying about leeside...this is an a.u.l. club with no income
    do they run a lotto? Do fundraisers? I'm sure they do. City have only been running the lotto for 3(?) years, and don't have the sort of fundraising activities that most clubs (at every level) in the country have. thats the problem.

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    Why can't the club come to some arrangement with a msl club to use there facilities, msl clubs are hardly going to use there facilities during the week and not before 5pm.

    The facilities at corinthians are exellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    do they run a lotto? Do fundraisers? I'm sure they do. City have only been running the lotto for 3(?) years, and don't have the sort of fundraising activities that most clubs (at every level) in the country have. thats the problem.
    no lotto...tried to get money off national lottery and was turned down...did fundraising....ccfc are a big name and could easily organise fundraising.. why dont somebody get up off their holes within the club and organise this

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