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View Poll Results: Were the City players right to go to the papers about training facilities?

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  • Yes.

    13 14.77%
  • It would be better if they hadn't but they had no choice.

    14 15.91%
  • I can see why they did, but it wasn't the right thing to do

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    The more sceptical amongst us might think Pat is using the training pitch issue to either push Lennox out and bring in his pal Wallace or to pressure the chairman into giving him a new contract.
    If Dolan thinks that this is the right way to go about getting a new contract then he is sorely mistaken.

    Brian needs to be strong through this and show Dolan who pays the wages.
    If it means Dolan walks then so be it.
    I never liked him anyway.
    "Must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love you knowing nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer
    Pressure has now been placed fully on the shoulders of Pat Dolan following a statement by "The Corner" that when he arrived in Cork he had "balls and ambition". Players are now asking what he did with those balls and are asking for a face to face meeting with Dolan to examine the position. Following a suggestion by "The Corner" it has been decided to "do it behind closed doors" in view of the sensitivity of the matter.
    We await developments.

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    Winter Training Facilities

    With our weather even in an average winter and spring, I could never see the point of training on grass. It is bound to suffer and makes it miserable for the players.
    I could not understand why the club moved away from training on astroturf. They used to train at Ashton school, I think. What happened there, get too expensive or something?
    Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere - Martin Luther King Jnr.

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    when chatting to brian over in nantes he said to mehe will be trying to have pre-season over in england touring playing clubs.

    what did they get...cold showers in bishopstown against dublin city


    bit of a difference there me reckons

  5. #125
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    Dolan Set To Quit

    FROM eleven-a-side

    Dolan in quit speculation


    February 25, 2005

    Cork City manager Pat Dolan is said to be considering his position in the light of the latest disagreement between the players and the club over sub-standard facilities, according to morning reports.

    Cork players Joe Gamble and John O’Flynn made their feelings known on Thursday, drawing attention to the standard of facilities in which the players had been asked to train in recent weeks.

    The squad put on a united front on Thursday night, issuing a statement in which they backed the opinions of the players quoted in national newspapers.

    Link: Cork players display united front

    A meeting between chairman Brian Lennox, manager Dolan and the playing staff is scheduled for this morning (Friday), but with tensions running high between Dolan and Lennox, it would be no surprise if there was further confrontation.

    Lennox is said to be displeased by the way in which the club’s expenditure has increased since Dolan took charge two years ago.

    The chairman last season put in place a series of cost-cutting measures, forcing the release of a number of players – a move which resulted in a marked reduction in the wage bill at Turners Cross.

    But whether this latest tete-a-tete between the two most powerful figures within the Leeside club results in a parting of the ways remains to be seen.

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    can I now say IT WASNT A RUMOUR
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    players statement

    Cork players display united front


    February 25, 2005

    Cork City’s players have issued a statement reaffirming their position on the state of the facilities in which they have been asked to train, insisting that the squad is united in its dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs.

    Players Joe Gamble and John O’Flynn made their concerns public on Thursday, with former Irish under-21 international Gamble describing the playing surface the squad had been using as a “cabbage-patch”.

    Link: Gamble hits out at Cork “cabbage-patch”

    And far from being dissenting voices amongst the squad, the players were speaking on behalf of their colleagues.

    A statement released on Thursday night read: “The views and opinions aired by the Cork City players in the papers are 100 percent honest and are shared by the whole squad. As players, all we are striving for is an improvement in our working facilities/environment.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    FROM eleven-a-side



    Lennox is said to be displeased by the way in which the club’s expenditure has increased since Dolan took charge two years ago.

    The chairman last season put in place a series of cost-cutting measures, forcing the release of a number of players – a move which resulted in a marked reduction in the wage bill at Turners Cross.
    Dont say that I told you so many a time on this forum.

    He had to be stopped.

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    I think Dolan was also moaning about size of squad. What size does he want it to be?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    I think Dolan was also moaning about size of squad. What size does he want it to be?????????
    {neccessary "don't bring size into this" comment in a dolan thread/}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan
    Dont say that I told you so many a time on this forum.

    He had to be stopped.
    Shut up ya clown.
    Champions!

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    If Dolan leaves this club over training facilities, he is nothing but a spoiled little child.
    At his disposal he has:
    nearly the best squad in the country
    the best ground, even though there are some constraints
    the largest following
    the biggest potential

    Where will he go?
    $hels are not going to give him a job
    EVERY other club in the country is smaller
    Who would allow him run a club with his hopeless financial management

    Whether he likes it or not, Dolan already HAS the biggest job in Irish domestic soccer.
    So buckle down, get on with winning either the FAI, Setanta Cup or the league, and stop moaning.......

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    lots of copy and pasting going on the last 2 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    lots of copy and pasting going on the last 2 days
    No, just being consistent in my opinions!....

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    If Dolan leaves this club over training facilities, he is nothing but a spoiled little child.
    At his disposal he has:
    nearly the best squad in the country
    the best ground, even though there are some constraints
    the largest following
    the biggest potential

    Where will he go?
    $hels are not going to give him a job
    EVERY other club in the country is smaller
    Who would allow him run a club with his hopeless financial management

    Whether he likes it or not, Dolan already HAS the biggest job in Irish domestic soccer.
    So buckle down, get on with winning either the FAI, Setanta Cup or the league, and stop moaning.......
    do you agree that if the club had been more transparent about the disagreements on these issues, then they may have been resolved before they boiled over following John O'Flynn's comments oppening the flood gates?
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    on red Fm BL was saying that himself and PD are talking but they were supposed to have a meeting yeaterday(i think) but PD didn't attend.BL also said that he got no reason as to why.He sounded really uncomfortable about it all,sounds like the relationship is very strained as the recent rumours have been speculating.
    Life isn't all beer and football...some of us haven't touched a football in months

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    He is always welcome up to Galway, as Stephen Lally hasn't got an assistant yet !!! and last year he stated that GUFC have the best training facilities in the EL, up in the Drom !!

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    Next time I have to merge a thread on this subject I'm banning the person responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac
    do you agree that if the club had been more transparent about the disagreements on these issues, then they may have been resolved before they boiled over following John O'Flynn's comments oppening the flood gates?
    Transparent to whom?
    Go out and tell all the fans and the whole world that there are dis-agreements within the club?

    PRESS RELEASE: Cork City today said that there is major disagreement within the club at the moment. With a few weeks to go to the start of the season, CCFC is an unhappy place at the moment. :END.

    Yeah, I guess that would have been the best thing to do.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    Transparent to whom?
    Go out and tell all the fans and the whole world that there are dis-agreements within the club?

    PRESS RELEASE: Cork City today said that there is major disagreement within the club at the moment. With a few weeks to go to the start of the season, CCFC is an unhappy place at the moment. :END.

    Yeah, I guess that would have been the best thing to do.....
    a few weeks to go? all this crap started 1/4 way through last season
    if they'd made public the problems and tried to sit down and solve them, you wouldnt have the nearly year-long tension precipitating in players and staff falling over themselves to talk to the news in one week as soon as one player has the balls to break the silence.
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