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Yes.
It would be better if they hadn't but they had no choice.
I can see why they did, but it wasn't the right thing to do
No.
Unsure
id call it adding fuel to the fireOriginally Posted by what biy!
do it behind closed doors
players meeting a la last year with georgie and all air their grievances
showers
it certainly won't go down well with some of them, but I agree 100% with him.
Its about time he said that- not just to the players, but to Dolan too. No bull, no spin, no excuses- just do your job lads. **** knows they're paid well enough for it.
wouldn't agree with him on this, but I think the point he's making is that its not as bad as other articles suggested- if you looked at Gamble's interview in the Sun, he seemed to say we ONLY trained in Deerpark, which is the worst of the lot.
agree with what biy. Maybe he's decided to show them that he's the boss. And I don't blame him
I personally spoke to one player today about all the stuff in the papers, and he was not in agreement with what has been done. Similarly, the Echo and REDFM both reported that some players they contacted were unaware of the decision to go public about this, nor did they support it. IMO, this is the most serious issue of the lot. If there is a split in the squad over this, it will do more damage than any bumpy pitch or any cold shower. What I want to know is:
1. Why did the players who spoke to the press claim to be speaking for ALL the players, when that is clearly NOT the case?
2. Was there a vote taken among players, or is this just a few hotheads mouthing off?
3. If the problems are as bad as they say they are, why are some players happy just to get on with it?
4. Did Dolan know about this?
5. If yes, did he approve of it.
6. If no, will he punish the players responsible for a serious breach of discipline, and damaging squad morale?
Last edited by Éanna; 24/02/2005 at 5:37 PM.
And another thing. If the players have a problem, why did they not bring in the PFAI, instead of going public. Surely if they wre talking about striking, they;d have to bring the PFAI. they could have asked someone to mediate instead of going to the press.
well?
I went for no, simply because it seems to be so co-ordinated. What short memories they have -
George - Going nowhere with Port Vale.
Flynn - Going absolutely nowhere with Peterborough.
Gamble - Barnet wouldnt offer him a contract in the Conference.
S O Flynn - Limerick????
They would all want to get a grip, or just leave.
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
Listening to Dolan on BRB last week and reading his comments in Inside Cork, I think Dolan is the one trying to get rid of Lennox.
He is putting pressure, in public, on the Chairman and some players have now joined in the chorus.
It was very telling that John O'Flynn was quoted as saying that the players are right behind Dolan in his calling for better facilities. In a reasonable scenario, the players would be behind Dolan and Dolan behind Lennox but I don't get that vibe.
I am very disappointed in the two Flynn's in particular as the club stood by them both through long injury layoffs.
Reading Lennox in thr Echo implies that he was not engaged by the players before their outcry which would undermine their justification for going public.
I'm sure they have that already? If the GAA are using Deerpark must be some sort of facilities there?
Maybe this is as a result of lack of 1st team coaches in pre season. Not that a few appointments this week maybe organisation will improve?
I've only picked up the quotes here from players but would I be correct in assuming that the players quoted didn't claim they spoke for the rest of the squad?
If they saying they speak for others when is not the case then not a good sign.
I would be inclined to agree with you. Its all speculation of course, but it all makes sense.
Not alot of Irish clubs would turn them away !!
And they should have to worry about facilities, it should be the last thing on their minds.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
The whole thing is a sorry mess.
As I don't know the full truth (on either side) I am willing to suspend judgement - just let them all know that there is 4 weeks to kick off so get on with it.
They owe it to us to get it sorted and ACT LIKE THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE COUNTRYjust like they've been telling us for the past 3 years.
Are we seeing Saipan by the Lee????
Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere - Martin Luther King Jnr.
What appears to be happening here is that the Club and players are starting to believe their own hype..........
Lennox thinks he .....Abramovich
Dolan (who has been strangely quite in all of this) thinks he's ..... Alex Ferguson
(some of) The palyers think their (fcuking) ...... Brazil - Stephen O'Flynn for **** sake played 3 games last season, while the club nursed him back from a serious injury...........he should be thanking his lucky stars he's allowed/able to step into "cold showers" or play on "cabbage patch pitches". Do it on the pitch first son, before moaning.
The only true fact here is that we, the fans, KNOW we are as passionate as ..... The Kop or The Jungle etc..........enough said
thats the only thing I'd disagree with in your post
Yes there are definate similarities with Saipan here.
Like in Saipan there is a problem with communications. Lennox et al must take some responsibility for this.
The players are making their concerns known. They know better than Lennox how the training is going.
Whatever happens it has been a PR disaster again for City.
Last edited by harry crumb; 24/02/2005 at 9:34 PM.
Can you imagine it?
Lennox up at the front with the driver - silent.
George and the O'Flynn's at the back flicking paper with elastic bands at him and Dolan.
Gamble asking George can he sit on the back seat with him (trying to be "one of the lads"). Dan Murray sitting in the seat behind Lennox ('cause he's captain) but sniggering every time a paper arrow hits Lennox on the back of the neck. Looking back at "the lads" wishing Woodsie had been offered the Captaincy last year instead of him
Colin T, Doyler, Woodsie (wishing he'd been offered the Captaincy instead of Murray last year), Hoggie & a few of the younger lads sitting in the middle of the bus ducking those stupid fcuking paper arrows, wishing those plonkers at either end of the bus would grow up and make up.
The driver wishing he'd taken the job of driving the pilgrims to Knock instead of these lot to Ballybofey - the old ones are so much better crack.
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