Bray statement

**wonder88** · 30/06/2017, 11:16 PM

This shows how difficult it is to get people to go to LoI games. Also shows up the ridiculous wages paid in our league when one considers the demand i.e. fans going to games, for their services. Maybe this statement will waken up the local soccer public and get to go some games there.

**Pablo Escobar** · 01/07/2017, 5:24 AM

Originally Posted by wonder88

This shows how difficult it is to get people to go to LoI games. Also shows up the ridiculous wages paid in our league when one considers the demand i.e. fans going to games, for their services. Maybe this statement will waken up the local soccer public and get to go some games there.

Nobody should take this statement at face value.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 01/07/2017, 8:39 AM

Sure O'Sullivan has said much the same at Limerick matches, albeit the situation wasn't quite as bad. Assume Bray will settle back into lower half obscurity soon. Shame, but a statement like this probably won't light a fire under the town.

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 8:48 AM

It came across as a fair statement. Fair enough as well to communicate it to their supporters at half time.

It's fair enough in response for people to ask what are the club doing to establish links within the community? When results aren't going the club's way, they'll need support. The statement is linking results to support.

I don't know much about the club and it's area. If their chairman is looking to move away from the Carlisle Grounds, is that a move their supporters are against?

**Ezeikial** · 01/07/2017, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by legendz

If their chairman is looking to move away from the Carlisle Grounds, is that a move their supporters are against?

There's not enough supporters, don't you see. Poor Denis might be forced to move the club away from the Carlisie Grounds because of this.

It's really all the fault of the local people

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 9:26 AM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

There's not enough supporters, don't you see. Poor Denis might be forced to move the club away from the Carlisie Grounds because of this.

It's really all the fault of the local people

Though they have small support, they have support. Their opinion on moving or not should not be dismissed because of those who stay away.

**gufct** · 01/07/2017, 9:56 AM

Bray settled on the steps of the Court last with their ex manager Mick Cooke who was looking for over €50k which wasn't reported in the sports media at all and this will have taken the majority of Dylan Connolly's transfer fee. The FAI Licensing Committee approved Brays Budget where they were agreeing huge wages for fairly average players and also approved the Athlone Town Budget which brings their role into the farce that is the way the League is handled, Promoted and funded by the FAI. If the league got the €500,000 that our CEO gets in wages , expenses and pension pot we might be halfway to building a proper league. Inflatables and Posters on random bus stops will not get people to go to LOI Games. The clubs are the only ones working on promoting the league with zero budgets from JD and the expenses and gravy train brigade who are milking the game dry in Ireland.

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 10:45 AM

It's easy to keep blaming the FAI, like people blaming the government. It's only in the last year or so that the PCA started negotiating with and lobbying against the FAI on league matters.

The league itself has to generate revenue. The FAI can assist with that in conjunction with the PCA.

Is the current tv deal sufficient? EirSport seem to want to broadcast more games and present a far better live broadcast than RTÉ.

I know that the idea of a Europa League playoff hasn't universal backing. At the same time, where's the harm in trialling it to see if it can boost midtable attendances, revenue and possibly through media interest raise the profile of the league.

**nigel-harps1954** · 01/07/2017, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by legendz

It's easy to keep blaming the FAI, like people blaming the government. It's only in the last year or so that the PCA started negotiating with and lobbying against the FAI on league matters.

The league itself has to generate revenue. The FAI can assist with that in conjunction with the PCA.

Is the current tv deal sufficient? EirSport seem to want to broadcast more games and present a far better live broadcast than RTÉ.

I know that the idea of a Europa League playoff hasn't universal backing. At the same time, where's the harm in trialling it to see if it can boost midtable attendances, revenue and possibly through media interest raise the profile of the league.

The same PCA headed by Denis O'Connor?

**bluewhitearmy** · 01/07/2017, 11:15 AM

The PCA is just as much if not more of a joke than the FAI.

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

The same PCA headed by Denis O'Connor?

If you're suggesting the PCA have the wrong person leading their negotiations, the clubs have to sort that out.

**nigel-harps1954** · 01/07/2017, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by legendz

If you're suggesting the PCA have the wrong person leading their negotiations, the clubs have to sort that out.

Essentially suggesting the PCA is a complete load of sh!te, especially with someone like Denis O'Connor at the helm.

**gufct** · 01/07/2017, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

It's easy to keep blaming the FAI, like people blaming the government. It's only in the last year or so that the PCA started negotiating with and lobbying against the FAI on league matters.

The league itself has to generate revenue. The FAI can assist with that in conjunction with the PCA.

Is the current tv deal sufficient? EirSport seem to want to broadcast more games and present a far better live broadcast than RTÉ.

I know that the idea of a Europa League playoff hasn't universal backing. At the same time, where's the harm in trialling it to see if it can boost midtable attendances, revenue and possibly through media interest raise the profile of the league.

Your post shows complete ignorance off how the FAI run the league and why they refuse to give the clubs information on how much their receipts and payments are broken down into running the league. As for the TV Deal the clubs have nothing to do with that and don't get a red cent from it. The PCA is a joke should be only one body for all clubs and not give in to JD and his bootboys divide and conquer tactics. The womens national team showed the way to take on the FAI but have the club the balls to do it.

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Your post shows complete ignorance off how the FAI run the league and why they refuse to give the clubs information on how much their receipts and payments are broken down into running the league. As for the TV Deal the clubs have nothing to do with that and don't get a red cent from it. The PCA is a joke should be only one body for all clubs and not give in to JD and his bootboys divide and conquer tactics. The womens national team showed the way to take on the FAI but have the club the balls to do it.

It's only in the last year or so that clubs have been pressing for more information. At the end of your post you are rightly directing attention to the clubs. Whatever happened in the past that the FAI assumed such a dominant position, it is not beyond clubs to work together and dance with the dinosaur. If weak clubs are giving in to divide and conquer tactics, I'd be asking questions of those clubs.

**Lim till i die** · 01/07/2017, 2:00 PM

It always makes me smile the way league of irelands fans go on about solidarity when the actual clubs and the people running the clubs would gouge your eye out for a fiver.

You could as a club delegate stand up at a meeting of clubs and deliver the most impassioned speech against Delaney and how the league is ran. And as soon as you finished your speech there would be a stampede for the door by delegates from other clubs to see who could be the first to ring John or Fran or Eamon to mark your card in the hope that in return they'll get a few nods and winks come licensing time.

Because there isn't a club in the country that would pass a proper licensing system if it was actually enforced. The license serves as a band aid for pr purposes and a tool for shafting naughty teams. That's about the size of it.

Bray's crowds (like more or less every team in the league) are a figment of some lads imagination on match night. It's a moot point anyway. Who in the name of jaysus thinks you can run a football club on gate receipts?

**pineapple stu** · 01/07/2017, 2:51 PM

Tony O'Donoghue interview with Denis O'Connor

Not a huge amount new really.

**legendz** · 01/07/2017, 3:59 PM

I think their chairman spoke well there anyway. I await those making their counter arguments.

**White Horse** · 01/07/2017, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Tony O'Donoghue interview with Denis O'Connor

Not a huge amount new really.

Interesting comment he made about complimentary tickets. The amount of people not paying in to certain grounds is significant.

**Lim till i die** · 01/07/2017, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Interesting comment he made about complimentary tickets. The amount of people not paying in to certain grounds is significant.

Which ones and why do you reckon?

**Martinho II** · 01/07/2017, 6:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Enjoy the trip down there, but there is no interest in the town or it seems to me, no effort on the part of the club to establish links with the town, Shankill, greystones etc..
Handy six points for Bohs this season though, so hang on in there Bray!

bit like with us. oh I wish to have the days like we had with Stephen Kenny when there was huge interest in our matches!