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    Ildefons Lima scored for Santa Coloma tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie C View Post
    Sevco, the gift that just keeps giving!!!
    Delighted that their first sojurn in Europe is at an end.
    https://twitter.com/galbraithrory/st...38926366785540

    I read somewhere else that the Luxembourg crowd had only ever scored once in European competition before, so that's one goal in thirteen games previously it seems.

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    Yup - against Glentoran in 1981, when they lost 5-1 on aggregate.

    Goals and final whistle reaction -


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    I see they only finished 4th in Luxembourg to qualify (surprised they have that many spots), 21 points behind the champions and 12 points off third with a far inferior GD - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E...n#League_table

    They were actually as close to being relegated as they were to winning it.

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    Some absolute belters for the airmiles enthusiasts in both the CL and Europa league in today's draw:

    Celtic vs Astana (4,786 km), fly the same distance the other direction from Glasgow and you would be in Boston. Go the same distance the other way from Astana and you would be beyond Hong Kong!

    Dinamo Kiev vs Maritimo (4,320 km), same distance the other way from Kiev would take you to Pakistan, from Funchal (Maritimo) you could almost be in Natal, Brazil.

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    Group A: Benfica, Manchester United, Basel, CSKA Moscow
    Group B: Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Anderlecht, Celtic
    Group C: Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag
    Group D: Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Lisbon
    Group E: Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor
    Group F: Shakhtar Donetsk, Manchester City, Napoli, Feyenoord
    Group G: Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig
    Group H: Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Tottenham, Apoel

    Tough one for Celtic against against a European powerhouse and a moneybags. Man U always seem to be blessed, Liverpool a reasonable chance. Happy days for Apoel. RB Leipzig must have the best chance of all the 4th seeds.
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    Something I have never been able to understand. Celtic can keep the ball for fun against their Scottish rivals. I didn't see the game against PSG but apparently they couldn't keep possession because of the pressing by PSG. What makes a good team better able to press than an average but equally fit lesser side ? Is a more talented player able to close down better than a less talented player ?
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    Better players can do most things better. I think the main issue is that PSG could cope with the pressing and Celtic couldn't. But also just the fact Celtic never have to press to that extent to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Better players can do most things better. I think the main issue is that PSG could cope with the pressing and Celtic couldn't. But also just the fact Celtic never have to press to that extent to begin with.
    Do you reckon? I am sure many Scottish teams try pressing Celtic and get punished because they are caught up field. Can Messi (note I don't include Ronaldo) press better than an average Scottish player?
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    Yes, of course he can. And he's surrounded by players who can press better.

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    There's also a lot less pressure on Celtic to retain possession when they're playing in the SPL. If they lose the ball they'll have it back within a few seconds anyway. It's a lot different to playing a team who will keep the ball for ages when they have it. It's going to wear you down pretty fast and inevitably make you more panicky when you have possession yourself.

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    Great win tonight, well deserved victory, another english team beaten in Basel, what a buzz...........brilliant (manure fans were dreadful, not a sound all game)
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    These trouncings for Celtic must be an embarrassment for a club with a proud European tradition. Can Rodgers not set up his team for damage limitation in games against the likes of PSG? By and large the Bournemouths, Brightons etc of this world don't concede 7 when playing Man City as they set up for damage limitation or does Rodgers not have that sort of mindset or are they really that bad?
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    Big time Rodgers I think. There's no way they should be getting those kind of hammerings, it's San Marino stuff. Fair enough for it to happen every now and again but it's becoming very regular.

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    Strange heading when the team loses http://foot.ie/threads/226983-RTE-Ar...despite-defeat
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    Antonio Conte is getting a lot of credit for 'limiting' Barcelona to very few chances while Chelsea remained slightly threatening themselves (i.e. Willian shots from outside the box). I can't help feeling the bar is being set fairly low for these so-called top managers in charge of high profile clubs. Barcelona, despite their La Liga stats, are a shadow of their former selves and Chelsea are getting credit for basically keeping them at bay in a home match they realistically needed to win, ideally by a couple of clear goals. It's only a year since PSG and Juventus beat Barcelona 4-0 and 3-0 in 1st leg home ties with performances that actually did merit a lot of credit, and they had Neymar to contain also.

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    Very cowardly display from Manchester United and Mourinho tonight, and in the first leg, justly punished by a more daring Seville side. Has he taken them as far as he can, already? So many misfiring players in the squad, not least Pogba and Sanchez.
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    Mourinho will be hoping a full preseason at the club can get Sanchez back on track, Pogba could be a more terminal problem. United knew what they were getting when they appointed Mourinho so I don't think there's much point in being completely outraged at this point. Overall things seem to be going in the right direction despite some setbacks, last night a high profile one with the manner of the defeat especially.

    Making the club competitive again and crucially playing CL football on a annual basis was probably the minimum requirement in a tangible sense, but once that is achieved the demands to compete properly for the PL/CL and develop a more attacking brand of football will intensify. Second place would have to be seen as progress this year, an F.A. Cup would add a little gloss and ultimately 2018/19 will determine whether he's been a success or failure I think.

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    All 4 English teams failed to win the second leg and only two go through. So it's Liverpool, Man City, Juventus, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Sevilla, Barcelona and Roma will be the eight names in the hat for Friday's draw. Spain (3), Italy (2), England (2), Germany (1). Impressive looking array of sides and the usual 4 countries.

    I heard a lot of complaints about the empty seats before the end of Ireland's game against Denmark. That was pretty much mirrored at Old Trafford on Tuesday.
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    In the aftermath of another PSG exit despite the huge outlay on transfer fees, I fond this interesting, on how there's a sense from some that the club's history pre-Qatari takeover isn't worth remembering: https://thesetpieces.com/features/be...-in-the-1990s/
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