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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    That's a bit disingenuous, Jack Byrne was called up to train with them last year at the age of 19 and Alan Browne also last year at the age of 20, although Browne missed out through injury.
    Byrne was playing in the Dutch top flight for almost a full season and Browne had a hundred odd senior games, including Championship level. IMO there is no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    In fairness to TOWK I wouldn't call up anyone from Roscommon. End of.
    I hear Chris O'Dowd is a decent goalie if we're stuck.

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    Matt Doherty and Derrick Williams have won POTY awards. Williams hasn't been called up and Doherty hasn't even made a revised squad yet.

    Playing one minute of Premier League football is not adequate though. I used the Harriman, Grego-Cox and Toner examples. He needs the transition to U-21 level and semi-regular senior football - if this is truly a footballing decision.

    In fairness, those lads you mentioned all had plenty of senior football and Rice doesn't.

    I can't prove it but they go to one, two games max a week and I have never heard them taking in West Ham U-21's though; and I don't think they should be taking cues, or leaps of faith, from an U-19 coach.

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    Has O'Neill ever flat out stated or implied that lads like Boyle, Horgan and Maguire need to move to England to be truly considered?

    It's hard to reconcile that with the fact he's willing to call up someone on the back of one minute of Premier League football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Matt Doherty and Derrick Williams have won POTY awards. Williams hasn't been called up and Doherty hasn't even made a revised squad yet.
    Doherty's been injured since the end of April, didn't play Wolves' last three games. Williams was relegated with Blackburn, hardly deserving of a call up

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Playing one minute of Premier League football is not adequate though. I used the Harriman, Grego-Cox and Toner examples. He needs the transition to U-21 level and semi-regular senior football - if this is truly a footballing decision.
    Nobody is saying a minute of Premier League football is enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    In fairness, those lads you mentioned all had plenty of senior football and Rice doesn't.
    Lawlor hadn't played senior football when he was called up, Cunningham hadn't made his senior debut when he was first called up, Duffy had played three games when first called up

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    I can't prove it but they go to one, two games max a week and I have never heard them taking in West Ham U-21's though; and I don't think they should be taking cues, or leaps of faith, from an U-19 coach.
    If you've no proof, then don't post it. Why wouldn't they listen to the U19 coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Has O'Neill ever flat out stated or implied that lads like Boyle, Horgan and Maguire need to move to England to be truly considered?
    Horgan was first called up before he moved to England

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    It's hard to reconcile that with the fact he's willing to call up someone on the back of one minute of Premier League football.
    It really isn't, like I said, players have been called into the international squad before playing senior football for their club
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    Norman Whiteside made his debut in a World Cup for the north with only 3 appearances for his club. All that has happened here is that a kid has been called up to train with the seniors for a (slightly) glorified post-season B international.

    He's been doing well for his club and our U21s. It all seems terribly sensible to me.
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    In MONROY we trust. I am sure the know what they are doing and long may they continue to surprise. I like this move. There is no room for complacency. I remember when a certain Steve Staunton and Jim Beglin were parachuted in. Turns out the manager knew what he was doing.

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    Damn you Gastric! I was just about to post I didn't hear any complaints when Staunton was called up for Euro 88. There weren't many Irish Times articles bemoaning lack of top flight players then either. I suppose there was no social media though.

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    EIR sports advertised coverage of both these games during Europa league final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Damn you Gastric! I was just about to post I didn't hear any complaints when Staunton was called up for Euro 88. There weren't many Irish Times articles bemoaning lack of top flight players then either. I suppose there was no social media though.
    The reason why there were no complaints about young Stan being called up for Euro 88, is simply because he wasn't called up for Euro 88.
    Otherwise point well taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    EIR sports advertised coverage of both these games during Europa league final.
    Can you remember if they specified 'live' coverage for the Mexico game? On their programme planner they only have it down for 08:00 on Friday morning and again for 21:30 that night.

    https://www.eirsport.ie/tv-guides

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    live-footballontv have it listed as being broadcast live at 1am on Premier Sports: http://www.live-footballontv.com/
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    Kevin Long is a good strong boy
    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...ance-1.3096192
    James McClean and three of the squad’s more established goalkeepers will join up with the 17 players who training at Fota island on Thursday morning ahead of Monday’s flight to New Jersey where Ireland will play Mexico next Thursday evening.
    About Kevin Long specifically
    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Keane
    “I’ve seen him a couple of times. He’s a good strong boy. Obviously, he’s not a kid and I’m sure if he gets a chance in Mexico he’ll take it. And that’s what happens in football sometimes. Sometimes fellas come into the squad at 18 or 19 years of age whether it’s a Robbie Keane or a Brady and then other lads come in a bit later in their career and that’s fine also.
    “As I’ve said, we don’t have the biggest pool of players so if lads are playing, particularly at Premier league level, then obviously they are going to be considered.”
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    Anyone know if the Mexico match is being screened live please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KK77 View Post
    Anyone know if the Mexico match is being screened live please?
    See two posts above your own ^^

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    Shame Westwood isn't travelling. Would have liked to see what a good strong boy and a good catholic boy could get up toin the Shtates.

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    With no left backs in the squad, it may be an opportunity to go Antonio Conté/Celtic O'Neill


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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    live-footballontv have it listed as being broadcast live at 1am on Premier Sports: http://www.live-footballontv.com/
    confirmed on Premier Sports' website: http://www.premiersports.com/footbal...nd-friendlies/
    1am, guess I'm working from home on Friday week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Shame Westwood isn't travelling.
    Is there confirmation of the squad that will be travelling to the US anywhere?

    Why isn't Westwood travelling? Didn't O'Neill indicate that the team chosen against Uruguay will pretty much be the team to play Austria or did I imagine that? If Westwood isn't travelling to the US, maybe he's going to get a game against Uruguay? Could there be a chance of him starting against Austria?

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