Well count me in if you're going to launch a campaign against the "Off Topic" Nazis.Originally Posted by davros
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In my opinion, if somebody doesn't like the the thread moving OFF topic then, they can F*ck OFF!Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
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Well count me in if you're going to launch a campaign against the "Off Topic" Nazis.Originally Posted by davros
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Tuff Paddy, you've been stood down. Starting thinking about a valuable contribution to a debate upon the social effects of French immigration.Originally Posted by lopez
Oh take it out on the Frech bloke that started on about certain members of his team not being able to speak French, then! When people come out with garbage like that why should the rest of us stand by and not comment on it?Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
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Tuff Paddy - dry yer eyes.Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
I suggested earlier in the thread that the 'mods' move it to Off Topic, but for whetever reason they haven't done so (at least not yet anyway).
If you don't want to engage in intelligent debate on this issue, the simple answer is not to do so. Go visit the 'haircare products' posts or one of the other ones elsewhere on the site....
And besides - space hoppers are frowned on these days by a lot of schools, on Health & Safety grounds.... )
Pot and kettle here me thinks.Originally Posted by davros
They were available in green too.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
I remember the white ones as well!!Originally Posted by Peadar
on no...............
I've just thought of an idea of how the 1,500 or so Irish fans can make their way to the stadium in Teal aviv........................
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Originally Posted by Junior
Count me in.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
I must intervene here, I just don't think you're taking the space hopper issue seriously. Surely the free availability of space hoppers to young Portuguese while les francais jeunes continue to suffer isn't a joke? I'll take my opinions elsewhere, gentlemen.Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
You can do an inverted hop so then.Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
Let the hopper mount you, while you bounce up and down.
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yere all mad I tell you mad...
Originally Posted by Donal81
There are, however, limits. How many are too many? What if 10 million came to Ireland? It is impossible to take eveyrone. Also, it merely perpetuates the cycle of poverty as we import a generation of helots while their country loses their workforce. Nobody benefits.
Also, staggered debt relief works because it stops the despots from using or stealing the money.
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
So you import a class of helots and have the opposite affect, wage deflation? As I noted earlier, if wages decline then immigrants will never make enough to cover pensions. Moreover, what if they decide that they don't want to continue to pay for these sorts of benefits? Also, what about the indirect costs associated with immigrants including health care, education and urban sprawl?
Are you surprised that the business lobby wants cheap, non-unionize labour? They are doing it for the benefit of society now? Funnily enough, it's actually biting them in the arse. In Florida, It is now cheaper to import oranges from the Far East then it is to grow and process them in Florida. Why? Well the Japanese invented a machine that can shake an entire row of trees in a grove. The family-cartels in Florida have survived on paying migrant workers next to nothing to pick their oranges. They have always resisted attempts at limited the number of migrant workers as they want a cheap source of labour. They are also strigently anti-union. Now they have been circumvented by technology. A great number of unskilled labourers are soon going to be out of a job with no benefits, no savings and no pension plan. The long-term cost is extraordinary. Via cheap labour!
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I'm sure my space-hopper had a Kangaroo's head.Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
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Sadly, the advent of electronic entertainment devices for kids as seen space hoppers reduced to little more than a minority pursuit.Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
Could be an opportunity to secure EU-funding for a 'space hopper' school though - no seats, just large individual divits alongside desk to cradle the bottom of your space hopper.
Space Hopper users have been discriminated against for too long now.....
Space Hoppers for Justice....!
Of course I went to an inner city school so we couldn't afford space hoppers, they had all been bought up by the posh schools, so the kids at our school just had to do with grabbing the fattest kid by the ears and bouncing around on them.
In fact that became official space hopper inner city school policy in Thatcherite Britain.
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Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
to Lopez
i'll try to make it with the english words i know
i don't like Chirac, Le Pen, liars, violence,Adidas,Zidane,milk,hate,...
i like football,craig(?),music,beer,peace,...
As i think you can read french, here's a good article in Le Monde 2001.This is exactly why i don't support the french team.
http://www.ac-versailles.fr/PEDAGOGI...t_perelman.htm
now i'll read and not post.
Cheers.
Laurent
that was little nackers from inchicore who live in the area throwing stones. they werent even Rovers fans,they mite be pats fans but jsut little toerags whatever team they follow . most clubs who go to inchicore have stories about the little ******es from the area throwing stuff. its even happened to Rovers ourselves.Originally Posted by Éanna
there were certainly no stones and bottles thrown from the Rovers crowd at that game. i was in the shed for it.
Firstly, I note that you didn't respond to the question where you got your assertion that France would be majority Muslim by 2045.Originally Posted by Fergie's Son
Secondly, how is immigration hurting the Irish economy at the moment? This question that I hear so often, "how many are too many?" and the line "it is impossible to take everyone" really bug me, I must say. Since when are we taking everyone? Why does Pat Delaney of the Small Firms Association look for 50,000 immigrants to come to Ireland this year in order to keep productivity moving? Where are you getting this notion that we're being bled dry?
Thirdly, I never said that debt relief wouldn't work long-term to help these countries out (although how it will stop a despot from stealing money from the country's coffers is beyond me. Again, I have to question where you're getting this economics) what it won't do, however, is turn an impoverished nation into a progressive one overnight. Until then, these people are being shafted and why in God's name should they stay while leaders in the West debate and debate upon the merits of debt relief?
I think a sense of perspective is called for. If the roles were reversed, what would you do?
You never explained why you thought there were certain members of the French team that didn't speak French. It's just that prior to our match in October I was talking to a waiter at a restaurant in Monte Carlo, who was also Monaco fan who said he no longer supported France because they were 'all Africans'. He then slagged off an African playing for Monaco as 'fast but stupid.' Perhaps with his experience, and another story concerning Lille fans, that you had a racial problem with the French team. If not, apologies.Originally Posted by laurent
I did read the article but I'm not a French speaker (cheated and got it translated by Yahoo). It did show one thing, that any multicultural team that France had is useless unless this becomes mirrored in society. Chirac's role in the World cup win was as hypocritical as it was laughable considering what he previously thought of immigrants and their children when mayor of Paris. As for the Algerians, well France - and Paris - has a bit of a history with them. I believe that during the height of the Algerian war of independence in October 1961, Algerians demonstrated in Paris. The chief of Police, Maurice Papon, who was eventually indicted for war crimes, responded by ordering the inner city shut and the Police to go on the rampage resulting in up to 200 dead. People like myself who grew up in Britain during the disgraceful wrongful convictions of Irish people for IRA bombings are still bitter. It's hardly surprising then that Algerians are also p*ssed off over a far worse crime.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...5359%2C00.html
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