Robben - Duff

**Karlos** · 15/02/2005, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I'm going on the Actim Index which measures every pass, tackle, run and blade of grass a player runs on during every match. They have been doing it 13 years now and it is supposedly very accurate. And I can say for sure that if Duff played the first 6 games of the season (even if he wasn't involved in any of the goals) he'd be above Lampard in the rankings. Thats saying a lot considering Lampard has been involved in so many goals this season. BTW, as I said, Lampard is no different in a 4-4-2 for England. If Lampard was a winger and Duff a central midfielder then fair enough.

To be honest I never pay to much attention to these player matrix things as i feel it doesn't always paint an accurate view. I prefer to just look at the stats as they stand. I by no means want to compare Duff and Lampard as they are to very different players playing in different positions but the effectiveness of Lampard to the team in the position he is asked to play, I believe is unquestionable. In the premier league he's played only 4 more games than Duff (23 - 27 games played). He's scored 7 goals with 10 assists compared to Duff's 6 goals & 3 assists. The stat I found impressive however was the successful crosses ratio with Duff managing 67 from a wide position and Lampard managing 60 from a central role.

Again I'll say I don't like comparing players like that as both play very different roles but without doubt I beleive that both are as important as each other to the success of the team.

p.s. for what it's worth I also rate Beckham, for his distribution and work rate alone (notably he's not the best tackler, but neither was many great players like Hoddle, Cryuff etc) I'd have him in a wide midfield role in my fantasty team!

. Haven't got the stats at hand but I imagine his assists ratio was mighty impressive at Man Utd.

**eirebhoy** · 15/02/2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by KarlosIRL

In the premier league he's played only 4 more games than Duff (23 - 27 games played).

Duff didn't start a league game until 7 games in, Lampard started them all. People talk about Matt Holland going missing in matches, I'm not taking a guess here, I'm stating a fact that Lampard goes missing in plenty of matches. The most recent would have been Blackburn where the 5 live commentator was saying he didn't turn up. I see Chelsea regularly, probably every 2 out of 3 games (and there has been loads) and Lampard is the one player I keep an eye because of the way he's portrayed in the press. I rate Gerrard btw as he does a central midfielders job but Lampard would pull out of a 80-20 never mind a 50-50.