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    Shane Keegan in at Galway United

    Allegedly

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    Great decision if true. Though Tommy was harshly treated

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    Did Keegan not sign a two year deal in the summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    Great decision if true. Though Tommy was harshly treated
    He was in his arse. People read far too much into some things and then nothing into others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    Did Keegan not sign a two year deal in the summer?
    Signed a two year deal at the start of the season I think.

    This is a massive gamble for Galway. Totally unproven manager with a budget. Could go totally tits up for them.
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    Keegan signed a 2-year deal with Wexford in January. Think it's a gamble but when first two choices turn you down, your options aren't great.
    And yes, despite Gufcfan throwing out the same tired old party line, Dunne was harshly treated - players threw the rattle, got their way, and continued to put in shocking performances. What United need is a manager to come in, stamp his authority and take no guff. Not sure Keegan is the man for that. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    Keegan signed a 2-year deal with Wexford in January. Think it's a gamble but when first two choices turn you down, your options aren't great.
    And yes, despite Gufcfan throwing out the same tired old party line, Dunne was harshly treated - players threw the rattle, got their way, and continued to put in shocking performances. What United need is a manager to come in, stamp his authority and take no guff. Not sure Keegan is the man for that. Time will tell.
    McParland turned the job down, nobody else did.

    Dunne was not harshly treated by GUFC, he failed with an improved squad this season and displayed that he was not the manager to bring the club forward, same as what happened to him at Cork City.

    We finished one position higher in a weaker league this season with a bigger budget and crashed out of both cups in disappointing fashion, if that's your idea of having a successful season, fair enough. For me that sort of sums up the problem with Galway United, there never is any expectation whatsoever .

    I agree with your point about needing a manager who needs to take no prisoners, changing the mindset at the club will be his biggest task. The players definitely weren't arsed after Dunne left, however the season was over and I'd imagine that some have played themselves out of getting new contracts and there could be a clearout of sorts, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
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    This could be the reason announcement is not till Saturday.

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    Micky Adams turned it down. Twice.
    The players should have been bursting a gut once they got their way to try and win a contract for next season. One of the reasons McParland turned it down is he was so underwhelmed by what he saw against Longford in the league and UCD in U19 final.
    There were some improvements to the squad on last year, but they didn't perform either for Dunne, or when he left.
    I'm not sure he was the right man to bring the club forward, but why chuck him with 5 games to go if you don't have someone lined up? 4 points from 15 when he left, conceded 5 against Youths and Cork, 2 against a Harps side that hadn't scored in months; and 4 against Dundalk. Dundalk and Cork I can understand, but 5 against Wexford? Some squad

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    Incorrect. Adams was never offered the job, he was in discussions with the club but little more and that's well known. There was massive obstacles in the way of him ever getting remotely close to that stage, like his insistence on bringing his headbanger of an assistant to the club. Sligo fans will know all about him.

    You seem to side very heavily against the players. I never said they were blameless, but ultimately it was the board who cast Dunne aside, not them. Dunne failed to get the best out of that group of players without a shadow of a doubt. We finished below teams we are better than on paper and have bigger budgets than.

    "They didn't perform for Dunne." That is an interesting view to take. Maybe Dunne wasn't the man to get the best out of them and that was how things panned out over the entire season, not just the last few games when the season was over and everybody just wanted it to end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    And yes, despite Gufcfan throwing out the same tired old party line, Dunne was harshly treated
    No party line, nobody tells me anything anyway. The situation was plain to see. I forgot who said it, but the idea that United fell apart without him is pure nonsense as well. 9 goals conceded in his last two games. Effectively managerless and with the season over, it was disappointing but not a shock that they continued to be terrible since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    And yes, despite Gufcfan throwing out the same tired old party line, Dunne was harshly treated.
    Dunne was not harshly treated as results & performances were so poor,if we didn't have the good start we could be playing in playoff tonight.

    Dunne job was to motivate our squad & win matches & this didn't happen much since summer break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olander View Post
    McParland turned the job down, nobody else did.

    Dunne was not harshly treated by GUFC, he failed with an improved squad this season and displayed that he was not the manager to bring the club forward, same as what happened to him at Cork City.

    We finished one position higher in a weaker league this season with a bigger budget and crashed out of both cups in disappointing fashion, if that's your idea of having a successful season, fair enough. For me that sort of sums up the problem with Galway United, there never is any expectation whatsoever .

    I agree with your point about needing a manager who needs to take no prisoners, changing the mindset at the club will be his biggest task. The players definitely weren't arsed after Dunne left, however the season was over and I'd imagine that some have played themselves out of getting new contracts and there could be a clearout of sorts, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
    Failed? He was higher in the table than last year, and was within a handful of points of fifth with several games to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    No party line, nobody tells me anything anyway. The situation was plain to see. I forgot who said it, but the idea that United fell apart without him is pure nonsense as well. 9 goals conceded in his last two games. Effectively managerless and with the season over, it was disappointing but not a shock that they continued to be terrible since.
    12 goals conceded in the 3 games after he left including 5 against Wexford and 2 against a Finn Harps team that hadn't scored in months.
    16 goals coneded in the 5 games after he left. One clean sheet against Longford, who you couldn't even manage to beat. The same Longford who scored a total of 25 goals in 33 games and finished with just 14 points, the closest anyone has come to Galways record of worst LOI Premier Division team.

    He had Galway in 9th, your best season since 2009 when they finished 8th (out of 10 teams). The last time a Galway side finished ahead of 3 Premier Division teams was in 2008 when they finished 9th in a 12 team division.
    Sacking him with a year to go was insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    Failed? He was higher in the table than last year, and was within a handful of points of fifth with several games to go.
    Yes, the season was a failure and we underachieved. We finished one position higher than last year with an improved squad that Dunne could not get the best out of. We crashed out of the FAI Cup at the first time of asking and he also rested players against Limerick in the league cup which cost us dearly.

    We were not going anywhere under his management, he would keep us up but little else and that's not good enough, he wasn't the man to progress the club. Our budget isn't peanuts like some seem to believe, we should be at the very least competing in the top half and being competitive in both Cups.

    That's just on the field, there were other reasons why Dunne's time had come, calling the situation 'insanity' shows how clueless you are about it, believe it or not, we watch the team every week and we may have a better handle on things than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olander View Post
    Yes, the season was a failure and we underachieved. We finished one position higher than last year with an improved squad that Dunne could not get the best out of. We crashed out of the FAI Cup at the first time of asking and he also rested players against Limerick in the league cup which cost us dearly.

    We were not going anywhere under his management, he would keep us up but little else and that's not good enough, he wasn't the man to progress the club. Our budget isn't peanuts like some seem to believe, we should be at the very least competing in the top half and being competitive in both Cups.

    That's just on the field, there were other reasons why Dunne's time had come, calling the situation 'insanity' shows how clueless you are about it, believe it or not, we watch the team every week and we may have a better handle on things than you.
    Galway played out of their skins in August to beat Dundalk. The players showed in that game what they were capable of. If they produced 80% of that performance each week they would be looking forward to European football next season. Is it Dunne's fault that the players couldn't be bothered in other games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    Galway played out of their skins in August to beat Dundalk. The players showed in that game what they were capable of. If they produced 80% of that performance each week they would be looking forward to European football next season. Is it Dunne's fault that the players couldn't be bothered in other games.
    I've already said that the players are not blameless in the situation and more than likely a few will not receive new contracts because of some of their poor displays. But yes, ultimately, it's the managers job to motivate and get the best out of his team, which Dunne failed to do.

    The argument that 9th was our best finish since blah blah doesn't hold up, we stayed up in a poor Division where two of the sides below us are essentially amateur and one slashed their budget (Longford), we had a weekly budget that was three of four times the size of those under us. That's the reality of the situation.

    Agreed on the Dundalk game, we did play well, but there were circumstances in that game that also gave us more of a chance than normal to beat Dundalk, you played BATE three days previously in an extremely taxing fixture and you also rested some key players against us.
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    He was within 5 points of 5th ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    He was within 5 points of 5th ffs.

    He was but the team never looked like getting those 5 points back.

    Probably harsh to sack him when they did especially when there was no one lined up to start straight away.

    It's done now and we now have to get behind the new man

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    He was within 5 points of 5th ffs.
    And we were never going to bridge that gap, we were only going one way under him, but you know best of course.

    "Insanity", you're clueless.
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