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    FIFA discussing the topic of national eligibility now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abt9t_EuSC8

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    So what happens to his Irish passport now then?
    Will it be shoved to the bottom of the sock drawer never to be seen again or post Brexit will he proudly be using it or the british one for his 2 weeks in Magaluf?
    Will he secretly dig it out now and again and indulge in a wistful moment of nostalgia day dreaming of the misty mountains of Mullingar?

    I'm just disappointed that we have lost a world class opportunity for food based puns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkrocket View Post
    I'm just disappointed that we have lost a world class opportunity for food based puns.
    Head over to ybig and fill your boots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkrocket View Post
    I'm just disappointed that we have lost a world class opportunity for food based puns.
    You do know that reheating left-over rice is the main source of food poisoning from take-aways? In future we should stick to carbs that won't cause nausea.
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    Ergot grows on wild rice too, can do funny things to your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Because once you're capped at senior competitive level, you can't file papers to change associations.

    But it can still follow that, once you file papers to change associations, you can't change back again. Those two options aren't mutually exclusive.
    The wording of the switch rule appears to support that a player can only make one switch and that the switch is irreversible.
    It also appears in another rule that a player needs to be resident 5 years in the new country before being eligible to play for that country, but that is not so and FIFA regularly dispense exception to the residency rule to children of immigrants /refugees/ the displaced. Yet that's not explicit in the text but in the practice. That rule is to protect players from being exploited not to punish

    In relation to the switch rule, some players have boomeranged, funnily enough both are Australians, Milos Degenek and Apostolos Giannou
    I haven't come across a player being refused a reverse switch

    This switch issue was originally discussed in the eligibility thread and I brought up an example of a an EPL player who applied for a switch, was called up by the new association (Trinidad?) but the player chose not to follow through. We speculated then on when the switch was actually activated and became irreversible.

    edit --- I see Joe D has already posted about the player Zamora and the reply from FIFA confirms that the player can cancel the switch as long as he doesn't play.

    On FIFA, the next change in the rules is likely to involve allowing a player to make a switch even though he/she was already capped at competitive senior level (one cap?)
    The theme running through FIFA's rules and rule changes is that they continually support the player rights and not favour the associations cynical efforts to tie them down.

    I might add that I could be mistaken in this interpretation of the switch affair, however it would be a first time getting something wrong in regards to all aspects of the eligibility rules discussed here over the last 11 years and Im the guy who explained many things to Danny re article 5 or 15 when he was in short pants.
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    Special Rice leaves Paddy’s field for English pudding.

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    He's gone to find his Ambrosia.

    Wait till he finds out Ambrosia Rice is ****e

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    I was born in the England and have lived in the UK for most of my life. I have both a UK and an Irish passport. I don't go round wanting England to lose every game or anything like that, but I would rather have had one Irish cap than a plethora of one's for England. For me it's not 50:50, it's not an "agonising decision", for me it's not even a "decision" at all.
    It depends, I think he only Irish on his paternal side, probably English on his maternal side, not sure what the case is with you? Irish on both side? That is very different, and it is more 50/50. Indeed as he was born in England it kind of makes him more English. I was born in England but both my parents were born in Ireland so I've no English blood. So it is a case of blood is thicker than water for me. If one of my parents was English it would be very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I'm disappointed with Geysir's level of misunderstanding on this aspect.
    Share your great understanding of the matter at hand that leads you to be oh so dissapointed

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    Anyhow as one drama ends another begins!!!


    LUCA CONNELL is the latest Irish youngster in England’s sights following Declan Rice’s switch.

    Connell, 17, is on the Three Lions radar after a stunning start to his senior career with Bolton in the Championship.
    Anyhow reading his tread here looks ominous. His wiki page said he had long term ambitions to play for England, that was then changed
    to Ireland, the edits made by his uncle apparently, but anyone could edit it and say they were the Pope or whatever.







    He will probably end up playing for Croatia. He has the name and the look, bet he has a Croatian parent!

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    Would be terrible to lose Connell, looks a really stylish player with a lot of confidence. Could just be a promising start and will fade but I watched a Bolton match lately and he was very good.

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    Not going to get my hopes up any more for these types of players. Or get in any way invested in them until/unless they are fully on board & tied to us or fully, unequivocally committed.

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