Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 19 of 47 FirstFirst ... 9171819202129 ... LastLast
Results 361 to 380 of 922

Thread: Declan Rice

  1. #361
    Capped Player DeLorean's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hill Valley
    Posts
    10,894
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,419
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,281
    Thanked in
    2,081 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I know its a bit mental, but i emailed Palmer about the u21 regulations. He should know the rules before writing an article
    It might have had an impact at somebody at The Indo! - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37355645.html

    There have been reports that Rice could be fast-tracked by England although any potential switch could take three months to process, while he would also be ineligible for England's U-21s in the current European Championship as he has already played for Ireland.

  2. Thanks From:


  3. #362
    Coach tetsujin1979's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Dublin, originally from Limerick
    Posts
    22,698
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,111
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,142
    Thanked in
    3,399 Posts
    the original article has been updated as well, from this
    O'Neill later confirmed that London-born Rice had spoken to Gareth Southgate and his England set-up about switching his international allegiances away from Ireland and a source has now told Independent.ie that the 19-year-old could be named in the England under-21 squad as early as next month before receiving a first senior England call-up in November.
    to this:
    O'Neill later confirmed that London-born Rice had spoken to Gareth Southgate and his England set-up about switching his international allegiances away from Ireland and a source has now told Independent.ie that the 19-year-old could be named in an England training squad for a friendly in November.
    Last edited by tetsujin1979; 27/09/2018 at 6:43 PM. Reason: highlighting changes in quote
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

  4. Thanks From:


  5. #363
    Capped Player DeLorean's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hill Valley
    Posts
    10,894
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,419
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,281
    Thanked in
    2,081 Posts
    My God. Our bullsh!t was exposed lads so we'll just change it.

  6. #364
    International Prospect tricky_colour's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Nottingham.
    Posts
    8,886
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,682
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    898
    Thanked in
    621 Posts
    Why he would want to join a team that have not won anything for 50 years?

  7. #365
    Coach tetsujin1979's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Dublin, originally from Limerick
    Posts
    22,698
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,111
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,142
    Thanked in
    3,399 Posts
    New contact offer for Rice, according to the telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...e-frustration/
    Article makes the same mistake about him being currently eligible for England's u21 side
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

  8. #366
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    2,643
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    21
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    663
    Thanked in
    509 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    New contact offer for Rice, according to the telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...e-frustration/
    Article makes the same mistake about him being currently eligible for England's u21 side
    I wonder if he accepts the new deal, will we have answer next week

  9. #367
    Banned marinobohs's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2009
    Location
    in the bar celebratingl
    Posts
    3,629
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    360
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    645
    Thanked in
    427 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    the original article has been updated as well, from this

    to this:
    Would playing for England in a friendly not still leave him eligible to play for Ireland ? is it not only competitive matches that 'commit' a player ? (similar to his games for us)

  10. #368
    Coach tetsujin1979's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Dublin, originally from Limerick
    Posts
    22,698
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,111
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,142
    Thanked in
    3,399 Posts
    honestly, I don't know. But I think he'd have to change his registration to play for England, which would render him ineligible.
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

  11. #369
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    2,643
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    21
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    663
    Thanked in
    509 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Would playing for England in a friendly not still leave him eligible to play for Ireland ? is it not only competitive matches that 'commit' a player ? (similar to his games for us)
    Once FIFA rubber stamp his registration he is gone regardless of playing for England. a player can only apply to officially change association once ie he cant change back

  12. Thanks From:


  13. #370
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    2,643
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    21
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    663
    Thanked in
    509 Posts
    I was just looking at Declan Rice page on theother forum ybig.ie and we should give ourselves a pat on the back….. as they are talking dog Sh*t … literally

  14. #371
    International Prospect CraftyToePoke's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    5,654
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,309
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,431
    Thanked in
    932 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I was just looking at Declan Rice page on theother forum ybig.ie and we should give ourselves a pat on the back….. as they are talking dog Sh*t … literally
    The great where's all the white dogsh*it these days debate.

    At least there is life on there, its nonsense quality wise compared to here, but on here really aint what it used to be.

  15. Thanks From:


  16. #372
    Reserves Fizzer's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    273
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    33
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    111
    Thanked in
    65 Posts
    Checked that out,they really are! A few saying that if there’s no news by Thursday we should make his mind up for him.I’d be inclined to agree.His behavior is very poor,yeah he’s young but he’s an adult,it would appear to me that he was overtly conscious that the friendly caps wouldn’t tie him and possibly would serve to call England’s bluff to an extent,which it has done.If that is the case,then its dreadful treatment of the country.Even he does declare for us,which seems highly unlikely,I have serious reservations about him.He could have captained us to a couple of World Cup qualifications and been a national hero but he’s fckd that up completely.Its a shame that a lot of this ‘dilemma’ may lie in the English World Cup campaign which was clearly based on straightforward fixtures and not some Gareth Southgate‘revolution’.Rice is a very,very good player and will most likely get even better,but he’ll soon be getting booed off the Wembley pitch with the rest of them.The Grealish and Kelly situations were bad but this really does suck.
    I would hope something could be done to avoid something like this again.Very difficult to solve but one possibility (which will never happen)might be to take advantage of the nations cup games coming up and accept that we’ve been battered off the pitch by both teams recently.Call up all those dual-eligibility players in the under-23 premier league squads and tie them down.If they don’t accept a call-up,forget them.

  17. #373
    Capped Player
    Joined
    May 2004
    Posts
    18,781
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    7,736
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4,834
    Thanked in
    2,761 Posts
    I don't think we should do anything rash even if he sits out the October squads. We don't know whats driving all this. Is he just simply torn, is he under pressure from his club during his contract renegotiation, does he think Keane is an aggressive moron, does he think MON is a dinosaur, does he think Steve Walford looks like a pimp...?

  18. #374
    First Team TrapAPony's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Timbuktu, Mali
    Posts
    1,603
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    518
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    461
    Thanked in
    285 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I don't think we should do anything rash even if he sits out the October squads. We don't know whats driving all this.?
    We had this stringing along rubbish with Grealish already. If he is not in Thursday's squad then we have lost him. I am fully expecting MON to say that Rice needs more time..blah blah blah..when in reality he is not coming back...IMO.
    Last edited by TrapAPony; 01/10/2018 at 8:40 PM.
    "We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo

  19. #375
    Seasoned Pro jbyrne's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Baile Átha Cliath
    Posts
    3,478
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    661
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    847
    Thanked in
    542 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzer View Post
    I would hope something could be done to avoid something like this again.Very difficult to solve but one possibility (which will never happen)might be to take advantage of the nations cup games coming up and accept that we’ve been battered off the pitch by both teams recently.Call up all those dual-eligibility players in the under-23 premier league squads and tie them down.If they don’t accept a call-up,forget them.
    we should never cheapen playing for our country in this way

  20. #376
    International Prospect CraftyToePoke's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    5,654
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,309
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,431
    Thanked in
    932 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    We had this stringing along rubbish with Grealish already. If he is not in Thursday's squad then we have lost him. I am fully expecting MON to say that Rice needs more time..blah blah blah..when in reality he is not coming back...IMO.
    Yeah, its this pretence we are some kind of equal opportunity option he needs time to chose between, we aren't, we really are not in this race, lets face it, if, if it's purely the case that the FA have turned his head with little bit of attention to him for the first time ever, after years with us and three senior caps. Unless MON has some very credible assurances this is purely contract related, and is going to end in our favour, we should admit our situation, and bow out, close the door Thursday unless he can name him, there would be more dignity in it for us. Its galling, its torturous, make it stop.

    And does anyone here think the MON we have come to know recently, & his tenure generally, would have that kind of a handle on this ? Doubtful, isn't it.

  21. Thanks From:


  22. #377
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    2,643
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    21
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    663
    Thanked in
    509 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    we should never cheapen playing for our country in this way
    Id add to that, the philosophy of sneakily "cup tying" a player in injury time against Moldova or the like, isnt a sustainable model going forward and it also cheapens our national team

  23. Thanks From:


  24. #378
    Reserves Fizzer's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    273
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    33
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    111
    Thanked in
    65 Posts
    Would the goal not be to prevent 19 year olds from cheapening the national team? Rice has Irish senior caps.When he deigns to finally declare that he’s bailed have those caps not been cheapened? The suggestion was admittedly drastic and partly tongue in cheek but there must be some way to avoid what’s happened happening again or at least reducing the risk.

  25. #379
    International Prospect CraftyToePoke's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    5,654
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,309
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,431
    Thanked in
    932 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzer View Post
    Would the goal not be to prevent 19 year olds from cheapening the national team?
    I think so too, you wouldn't end up cheapening anything in comparison to how it will be degraded by a defection like this if he goes. You make the guy aware he will likely come off the bench if the game goes to plan, in good time, congratulate him with a smile, then when you get some bullsh*t sick note from his club, but he remarkably plays club ball either side of the International break, you know what you have, a cuckoos egg in the nest. And move on.

    If he accepts the call up, you also know what you have, even if you end up not actually playing him after all.

    Without some kind of tweak to the rules from FIFA, how else can we avoid these ? Because we do need to.

  26. #380
    Banned marinobohs's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2009
    Location
    in the bar celebratingl
    Posts
    3,629
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    360
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    645
    Thanked in
    427 Posts
    There is zero chance of FIFA changing this, unless to make it more easy to switch. freedom of movement of workers, maximizing career opportunities etc would prevent them even trying. Sure, how many Brazilians play for other countries already ? the only way is to do what we always did - maximize the attraction of playing for Ireland and focus on getting those that we can. traditionally the likes of Aldridge, Townsend, McDonagh etc would have had little link with Ireland until they were 'discovered'. Given the chance to play for England none of them would have worn green (and it would have been a quick choice).


    we 'poach' Norn Iron players, have poached England players for decades and now England poach Grealish and (probably) Rice - both born in England, and we call 'foul'. if players choose not to play for us, move on.

    To do this we need to restore the team spirit that was such a factor is previously successful teams, even if that means a change in management.

Page 19 of 47 FirstFirst ... 9171819202129 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Declan Boyle
    By Mayo Red in forum Finn Harps
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 17/01/2006, 7:31 PM
  2. Declan Daly
    By superal in forum Cork City
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 19/01/2003, 10:46 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •