Richard Dunne

**irishultra** · 02/02/2011, 9:45 PM

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck

**Sullivinho** · 02/02/2011, 9:47 PM

Originally Posted by irishultra

shocking his time might be up soon, some players you would say might not be soo good at club level but international game suits them, dunne is like the least player cut out for international football, not an intelligent defender at all. a liability for any epl team

That's your quota of hyperbole for the year used up and it's only february!

**irishultra** · 02/02/2011, 9:49 PM

wats that? and its true dunne is a terrible defender, hes lucky trap plays so defensive or he would be found out time and time again

**SwanVsDalton** · 02/02/2011, 9:50 PM

Originally Posted by irishultra

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck

Not sure what 'Richard Dunne' you were watching (maybe you were staring at a box of Sugar Puffs) but he was largely brilliant last year. As his fellow professionals agreed. For someone so 'clumsy' he's done well to have such a long, highly respectable career at the highest level..

**irishultra** · 02/02/2011, 9:51 PM

ask any villa fan they want him out of the team and hes just gonna keep getting worse. i can see sven picking him up during the summer

**Charlie Darwin** · 02/02/2011, 9:53 PM

I think your signature sums up just how skewed your judgement is.

**SwanVsDalton** · 02/02/2011, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by irishultra

ask any villa fan they want him out of the team and hes just gonna keep getting worse. i can see sven picking him up during the summer

I'm a Villa fan. So I know the following:

1) Richard Dunne was brilliant last season and hasn't been great this year, his form compounded by the general mess that has been Villa's back four, not to mention some disastrous mismanagement from Houllier. Excepting last night, however, his form has improved quite a bit. He's been much better than Collins and would benefit from having Cuellar beside him.

2) The majority of Villa fans are clueless muppets.

**drummerboy** · 04/03/2011, 10:11 AM

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.

**TrapAPony** · 04/03/2011, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by drummerboy

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.

Coleman, St. Ledger, O'Shea, Clark for me but for Trapattoni it will probably be O'Shea, St. Ledger, Clark, Kilbane

**jbyrne** · 04/03/2011, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by drummerboy

SSN are reporting that Richard Dunne is out injured for about a month with a shoulder injury picked up during the week against Man City. Bad news indeed. Who will replace him for Ireland.

so no given, dunne or keane. v bad news for us

**elroy** · 04/03/2011, 10:28 AM

FCUK!! probably our most indispensable player at the moment. Hopefully the time out will not be as long as anticipated.

**rebelmusic** · 04/03/2011, 10:33 AM

Yup, after Given and Keane our last real leader on the pitch. Pretty much guarantees Kilbane will start for that alone.

**rebelmusic** · 04/03/2011, 10:34 AM

Hmm maybe not so bad. 3 weeks is just about doable. Trap will probably call him up and leave it down to the wire.

Aston Villa defender Richard Dunne will be out of action for up to a month with a shoulder problem, the club have confirmed.
Dunne suffered the setback during Villa's 3-0 defeat against Manchester City in the FA Cup on Wednesday.
Villa boss Gerard Houllier confirmed: "Unfortunately, we're going to lose Richard Dune for three to four weeks with a shoulder problem.
"The good thing is, we haven't got many games during that period."

**Lionel Ritchie** · 04/03/2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by irishultra

poor season year before last and was alrite at best last year, still as clumsy as fck

year before last he'd still have been with City. Interesting stat I heard - new years day 2009 (his last NYD at City) City had conceded just 10 goals away while Villa had conceded 27. New years day 2010 Villa had conceded 10 goals and City had shipped 27. The one constant in all this -Mr. Richard Dunne.

**Stuttgart88** · 04/03/2011, 11:42 AM

If Dunne is out I'd go for:

Foley-JOS-SSL-Kilbane

Kilbane for the experience & leadership, as noted above.

I think Trap rates Kelly over Foley though. Foley just shades it over Coleman for me because he's a defender first & foremost.

**paul_oshea** · 04/03/2011, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

I'm a Villa fan. So I know the following:

1) Richard Dunne was brilliant last season and hasn't been great this year, his form compounded by the general mess that has been Villa's back four, not to mention some disastrous mismanagement from Houllier. Excepting last night, however, his form has improved quite a bit. He's been much better than Collins and would benefit from having Cuellar beside him.

2) The majority of Villa fans are clueless muppets.

I thought you said he played well the other night?

The last few back fours look awful dodgy to say the least. But we cant do anything about it. Its almost 4 weeks away, Im confident dunney will be fit if houllier lets him go.

I get excited when i think about the players we have, then when one player like this is out, i think we are in dire straits.

The only plus is that its the home game they are out for and not the away game.

**drummerboy** · 04/03/2011, 12:01 PM

I still wouldn't give up hope of Dunne making the game.

**SwanVsDalton** · 04/03/2011, 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I thought you said he played well the other night?

The last few back fours look awful dodgy to say the least. But we cant do anything about it. Its almost 4 weeks away, Im confident dunney will be fit if houllier lets him go.

I get excited when i think about the players we have, then when one player like this is out, i think we are in dire straits.

The only plus is that its the home game they are out for and not the away game.

He did play well the other night - post you've quoted is from over a month ago.

Bit of a disaster - three of our 'big four' possibly gone. Definitely hope Duff is wrapped in cotton wool now. As has been mentioned, there's still a good chance he'll play. Dunney Monster has regularly played through the pain barrier and if he's anywhere near fit he'll be itching for the game and Trap will probably start him.

**tetsujin1979** · 04/03/2011, 7:21 PM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

year before last he'd still have been with City. Interesting stat I heard - new years day 2009 (his last NYD at City) City had conceded just 10 goals away while Villa had conceded 27. New years day 2010 Villa had conceded 10 goals and City had shipped 27. The one constant in all this -Mr. Richard Dunne.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that isn't right.
This is Dunne's away record with City up until January 1st, 2009

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                                        Home                          Away 
Date            Competition    Team                    Goals Goals            Team
17-Jul-2008 UEFA Cup           EB Streymur               0     2   Manchester City
28-Aug-2008 UEFA Cup           Midtjylland               0     1   Manchester City
31-Aug-2008 Premier League     Sunderland                0     3   Manchester City
18-Sep-2008 UEFA Cup           Omonia Nicosia            1     2   Manchester City
24-Sep-2008 English League Cup Brighton and Hove Albion  2     2   Manchester City
28-Sep-2008 Premier League     Wigan                     2     1   Manchester City
20-Oct-2008 Premier League     Newcastle                 2     2   Manchester City
29-Oct-2008 Premier League     Middlesbrough             2     0   Manchester City
 2-Nov-2008 Premier League     Bolton                    2     0   Manchester City
27-Nov-2008 UEFA Cup           Schalke                   0     2   Manchester City
 6-Dec-2008 Premier League     Fulham                    1     1   Manchester City
21-Dec-2008 Premier League     West Bromwich Albion      2     1   Manchester City
28-Dec-2008 Premier League     Blackburn                 2     2   Manchester City

Total goals conceded away from home - 16
If you just restrict it to League games it's

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                                        Home                  Away 
Date            Competition    Team                    Goals Goals            Team
31-Aug-2008 Premier League     Sunderland                0     3   Manchester City
28-Sep-2008 Premier League     Wigan                     2     1   Manchester City
20-Oct-2008 Premier League     Newcastle                 2     2   Manchester City
29-Oct-2008 Premier League     Middlesbrough             2     0   Manchester City
2-Nov-2008  Premier League     Bolton                    2     0   Manchester City
6-Dec-2008  Premier League     Fulham                    1     1   Manchester City
21-Dec-2008 Premier League     West Bromwich Albion      2     1   Manchester City
28-Dec-2008 Premier League     Blackburn                 2     2   Manchester City

Total league goals conceded away from home - 13
Villa's away games from the same period are

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                            Home                         Away
Date         Competition    Team                 Goals Goals    Team    
19-Jul-2008  Inter Toto Cup Odense                 2     2   Aston Villa
14-Aug-2008  UEFA Cup       FH Hafnarfjordur       1     4   Aston Villa
23-Aug-2008  Premier League Stoke City             3     2   Aston Villa
15-Sep-2008  Premier League Tottenham              1     2   Aston Villa
18-Sep-2008  UEFA Cup       Litex Lovech           1     3   Aston Villa
21-Sep-2008  Premier League West Bromwich Albion   1     2   Aston Villa
 5-Oct-2008  Premier League Chelsea                2     0   Aston Villa
26-Oct-2008  Premier League Wigan                  0     4   Aston Villa
 3-Nov-2008  Premier League Newcastle              2     0   Aston Villa
 6-Nov-2008  UEFA Cup       Slavia Prague          0     1   Aston Villa
15-Nov-2008  Premier League Arsenal                0     2   Aston Villa
 7-Dec-2008  Premier League Everton                2     3   Aston Villa
17-Dec-2008  UEFA Cup       SV Hamburg             3     1   Aston Villa
20-Dec-2008  Premier League West Ham               0     1   Aston Villa
30-Dec-2008  Premier League Hull City              0     1   Aston Villa

Total goals conceded away from home - 18
City's record up until January 1st, 2010

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                               Home                            Away                
Date        Competition        Team                    Goals Goals             Team
15-Aug-2009 Premier League     Blackburn                 0     2    Manchester City
27-Aug-2009 English League Cup Crystal Palace            0     2    Manchester City
30-Aug-2009 Premier League     Portsmouth                0     1    Manchester City
20-Sep-2009 Premier League     Manchester United         4     3    Manchester City
 5-Oct-2009 Premier League     Aston Villa               1     1    Manchester City
18-Oct-2009 Premier League     Wigan                     1     1    Manchester City
 1-Nov-2009 Premier League     Birmingham City           0     0    Manchester City
21-Nov-2009 Premier League     Liverpool                 2     2    Manchester City
12-Dec-2009 Premier League     Bolton                    3     3    Manchester City
16-Dec-2009 Premier League     Tottenham                 3     0    Manchester City
28-Dec-2009 Premier League     Wolverhampton Wanderers   0     3    Manchester City

Total goals conceded - 14
Note that Dunne did play in the first away game against Blackburn

And finally, Richard Dunne's games with Villa up until January 1st, 2010

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                           Home                                       Away
Date        Competition    Team                    Goals Goals        Team
13-Sep-2009 Premier League Birmingham City           0     1   Aston Villa
26-Sep-2009 Premier League Blackburn                 2     1   Aston Villa
24-Oct-2009 Premier League Wolverhampton Wanderers   1     1   Aston Villa
27-Oct-2009 English League Sunderland                0     0   Aston Villa
31-Oct-2009 Premier League Everton                   1     1   Aston Villa
4-Nov-2009  Premier League West Ham                  2     1   Aston Villa
21-Nov-2009 Premier League Burnley                   1     1   Aston Villa
1-Dec-2009  English League Portsmouth                2     4   Aston Villa
12-Dec-2009 Premier League Manchester United         0     1   Aston Villa
15-Dec-2009 Premier League Sunderland                0     2   Aston Villa
27-Dec-2009 Premier League Arsenal                   3     0   Aston Villa

Total goals conceded away from home - 12
If you remove the two league cup games then it's 10 goals conceded away from home

**mark12345** · 04/03/2011, 9:02 PM

It's a loss (experience wise) but only if we bring in Kilbane. The squad is big enough now to cope. The back four should be

Foley St Ledger O'Shea Clark