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    Quote Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
    Is it not the manager's job to decide if, and in what positions, new signing's are required - subject of course to finances being made available by the chairman / board?.

    I read also on your official site that technical director Liam Murphy has agreed the terms of a new contract with Billy Woods - again normally the team manager does this?
    Murphy deals with all contract negotiations. IMO, thats a good thing, as it removes the chance for any hassle between Dolan and players regarding wages etc. Also, given the way Dolan is alleged to have spent money at Pats, its a handy safeguard against the same thing happening again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    didnt dolan say he had a 3 year plan. if this fails, how many people will point the finger at dolan. a lot id say. but how is it his fault if there is no cash being made available.
    So are you honestly saying that Dolan would have taken the job without asking Lennox what kind of money was available? Dolan knows the game, and he knows the league- so no chance. Its the same as the training facilities issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti dub
    Adam I understand your point and the guy has taken us a long way, but Lennox simply doesn't have the money to take us to the level of Shels.
    He has. And he has also said that he will hand over to someone else, who is willing to take us to the next level. So why criticise him? he's being realistic. He doesn't want to bankrupt himself or the club, and he's dead right. Would people rather he did a Ridsdale on it and left the club in bits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    I'll tell ya somethin, when I read threads like this I can understand why some football managers and owners put their hands over their ears and scream "LA LA LA" when anyone comes anywhere near them with a web browser. No matter what you do, there's always some "expert" out there to tell you you're doing it completely wrong, and how you should be doing it.
    if i was Brian Lennox and i was reading some of this, I'd probably turn around and tell people to go **** themselves, and take off. After all he's done, he doesn't deserve this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    So are you honestly saying that Dolan would have taken the job without asking Lennox what kind of money was available? .
    well if we are to belive the rumours that they arent exactly the best of friends could it be steming from your point i.e. so much yoyos is available and dolan is still waiting to see the so much yoyos


    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    Yes, but as I pointed out above, AFAIK, Dolan only directly influenced one of those transfers.
    Look at his other signings. Hedderman. Packer. Byrne. Yukoh. Casey. One was as bad as the next
    not a first teamer but nwanko never let the side down when called upon

    cant get every signing right
    Last edited by thecorner; 07/02/2005 at 9:23 PM.

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    Thumbs up

    I'm very surprised by the reaction of some people here. Sounds like a very reasonable article to me.

    Last Season
    League 2nd
    FAI Cup 2nd round
    Inter Toto Cup 3rd round

    Next season
    Going to be hard to beat shel$ into 1st so 2nd won't be a disaster (will probably depend how we perfrom)
    FAI Cup - definitely look to improve as can't do worse.
    Is Inter Toto Cup 3rd round = UEFA 2nd qualifying round?

    Remember no club besides Bohs or shel$ has made it past the 1st qualifying round of Uefa CUP in recent years...

    Lennox is right to mention manner Drogs are spending money - it would be surprising if they could pay for it in the long run as owners pockets are only so deep.

    I think Lennox has mentioned often enough hes desire to invite more money into the club but doesn't sound like anyone really stepping up...? I've been following city for 15 years now & never seen chairman take such an interest in clubs wellbeing now & into the future.

    btw he is 100% correct in saying priority has to be good centre midfielder. I only saw Long in 2 u-21 games last year but he looked much better than Behan & could do job for 1st team squad already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete

    btw he is 100% correct in saying priority has to be good centre midfielder.
    priority...no way
    colin t, gamble and georgie all fighting for 2 spots in there

    priority=centre half and the faster the better. in fact this is a neccesity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    priority...no way
    colin t, gamble and georgie all fighting for 2 spots in there

    priority=centre half and the faster the better. in fact this is a neccesity.
    I would disagree here, yes there is a requirement for a centre half but a strong, tough, no nonsense central midfielder is a greater need. Gamble did well in this role last season but we need another to keep a push on for places.
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    time for wallace to come in
    And do the same to CCFC as they did above to SPA,is it????

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    fao the corner. be realistic come on. at least in lennox you have a chairman who is sensible and realsitic and knows how to keep the club living within its means,which will ensure longterm survival of your club. (unlike fordsons,cork hibs,cork celtic, cork alberts and the rest.remember them?).
    btw as for dolan, he left st pats in the sh!t with the cash he spent in bringing them success. they are still not yet recovered even 3 years after he left,they need to revert to part-time this year.dont believe dolans nonsense if permitted then hel screw you in the longterm by not living within your means.

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    Brian Lennox is a very astute businessmen and in no doubt is very realistic as to what City can achieve in the short term. The main thing now for all City fans is to remain patient and success will come. Be mindful of what Fat did to St Pats as I'm sure Mr Lennox is.

    Corner can you tell me, how is Mr Lennox not showing any ambition for ****. If anything he saved your club and you showed be thankful for his intervention and shrewd acumen to date. I do believe that CCFC deserve a better man at the helm than Dolan.

    Fat's antics are well noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan
    .....Fat.....
    .......****.......

    .....Fat's.....

    Grow up ffs....

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    Partizan, your comments would have been alot more respected and had more credence had you left the fat/**** nonsense behind you.
    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

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    Some fans have a very short memory.
    Anyone remember why the club nearly went wallop a few years back?
    It took on more financial burden that it could cope with.
    And I for one would rather have a football club to support rather than a league title and memories of a club that no longer exists.
    Do I lack ambition?
    There's is no point putting your long-term future at risk for short-term gain. Look at Leeds - the heart and soul of that club is destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan

    Corner can you tell me, how is Mr Lennox not showing any ambition for Cork. If anything he saved your club and you showed be thankful for his intervention and shrewd acumen to date.
    read my comments above. i am very thankful for what he did.

    and i also stated there is no place for sentiment in football. he cannot bring the club further. he already stated he will have to step down in the next 3 years for somebody to bring it to the next level.


    it seems a lot here have been going on about the way he saved our club and yes we are all grateful but i ask u this

    are you happy for our club just to exist?

    most of the people that have been joining this topic are members i have respect for as they contribute a lot but would yopu be happy with just a cup run next season with no silverware to show again except for the munster sh1tty cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    are you happy for our club just to exist?
    No. And would you like to tell me WHERE or WHEN Brian Lennox has ever said that? Or anything like it?

    I agree, there's no room for sentiment in football, but there's no room for people to be unfairly attacked for saying or doing things that they haven't said or done either.

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    This is just the el silly season. No matches to talk about so stuff like this gets more attention than normal.

    Club does seem to have levelled off in progressing professionally but we probably don't know all thats happeneing behind the scenes.

    What si the alternative anyway? Do we expect Lennox to pump his own cash into the club? Would a supporters Co-op be better?

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    Like a supporters trust? Cant see it happening, and these things, while beneficial in the short term end up seriously messy, like what happened at Bournmouth (I think), where the fans bailed them out, elected a chairperson who got too big for his boots, and the whole things fell to pieces.

    I could just imagine some jumped up nobody trying to do this at City.

    Anyway, the point is moot. We wont find better than what we have even if we tried. Citys short term future, IMO, is in capable hands with Brian Lennox.
    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    No. And would you like to tell me WHERE or WHEN Brian Lennox has ever said that? Or anything like it?
    i think you know eanna that i am not uinfairly attacking, just looking at this side of it

    didnt he state in his interview that an improvement on last year would be a cup run

    it certainly is an improvment on the cup side but i think we deserve more this season than just a cup run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    Like a supporters trust?
    great idea would be what bohs did. anybody remember their jersey where fans paid x amount and had their names on the jerseys a la the old man utd jersey with ex players names.

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