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    Quote Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
    Is it not the manager's job to decide if, and in what positions, new signing's are required - subject of course to finances being made available by the chairman / board?.

    I read also on your official site that technical director Liam Murphy has agreed the terms of a new contract with Billy Woods - again normally the team manager does this?
    Lennox merely gave his own personal view on the strength of the playing squad, he is not deciding what player is to be signed and where.
    Dolan decides on which players he wants, Murphy deals with the details of the contracts. Nothing abnormal in that? Dolan concentrates on the bigger picture here, that of trying to get the players and team right on the pitch. It's hardly necessary for him to be discussing the euros and cents with players is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niamh
    I can't believe some of what I have just read.
    Unreal. I was shocked when I read the story this morning. IMO Lennox is one of the best things that has ever happened to the club and the fact that he is realistic and down to earth makes me thing he is very much the man for the job.
    BUT it can't be easy and is very much a drain on his time and financial resources. Maybe it is time for the fans of CCFC to show him how much we appreciate everything he has done??
    If you look at some of the stuff thats been posted about him on the corkcityfc forum, and some of the comment starting to appear here, it seems like there is a concerted effort by some people to attack Lennox over the last few weeks.
    There is a definite anti-Lennox agenda out there, and I would love to know what has prompted all of this.

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    Lennox is by far one of the best things that has happened to the club EVER! anyone that says he lacks ambition seriousy needs to take a look at what hes done since taking over..remember what the club was like under terry dunne and those other gob****es?we've moved on so much since then

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    I respect Lennox for what he's done but he said himself that SOMEONE ELSE will have to take the club to the next level, the problem being, who??

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    when i win the lotto...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    disgusted reading yesterdays echo and the interview with lennox.. shows real lack of ambition and seems happy just to exist

    could be time for him to step down if this is gonna be his attitude
    if lennox said that we're gonna be serious contenders the cup and league u'd probably still come on here b1tchin.....sayin that his aims are unrealistic,he's puttin pressure on players and fooling the fans.......therefor it "could be time for him to step down if this is gonna be his attitude"

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    Brian Lennox is the reason why City has the squad it has, and is also the reason why we are frustratingly near championships and cup titles going in to the next season. He is a realist and loves the club and the city. He has the backing and goodwill of a lot of people and I reckon in time he will leave over the club to bigger and commited financial interests but only when the time is right and he has found the right successor. I trust his judgement and I am tired of the backstabbing and spite that has been directed against him lately.

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    I'll tell ya somethin, when I read threads like this I can understand why some football managers and owners put their hands over their ears and scream "LA LA LA" when anyone comes anywhere near them with a web browser. No matter what you do, there's always some "expert" out there to tell you you're doing it completely wrong, and how you should be doing it.

    For the record, there's a very simple way of putting it all in perspective: Think about where the club would be now if it was still in the former owner's hands.

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    Adam I understand your point and the guy has taken us a long way, but Lennox simply doesn't have the money to take us to the level of Shels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colm

    Corner, where are you seeing the lack of ambition? I can't see it at all to be honest. Quite the opposite if anything.
    an improvement on last season is to have a good cup run??????

    IMO we deserve more than just a good cup run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti dub
    the guy has taken us a long way, but Lennox simply doesn't have the money to take us to the level of Shels.
    And who does have this money, and actually wants to invest in City. Its not like there are bids flying in from all angles. Also, how do people know "that Lennox cannot afford to bring City the extra step"? Is there any basis for these claims? As many have mentioned already, Lennox is nothing if not realistic. His comments merely mirrored that fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    an improvement on last season is to have a good cup run??????
    Yes, it would. City havent had a cup run now since 2002. However, an improvement in the league would be nice as well. Who is to say that wont happen this coming season?

    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    where the club would be now if it was still in the former owner's hands.
    Simple. It would be gone. Ramblers would be Corks only eL representative.
    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

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    its obvious pat dolan believes this club can be taken to higher level. but hes gonna need backing. shels go out and get 4 quality players while we are still twiddling our thumbs.
    its also obvious that the chairmans ambition doesnt match that of the manager.

    didnt dolan say he had a 3 year plan. if this fails, how many people will point the finger at dolan. a lot id say. but how is it his fault if there is no cash being made available.


    you might say there is no cash available but when is the last time city bought a player? what about this massive sponsorship deal we got?

    im only looking at the other side of the arguement. there is always 2 sides.

    granted,lennox came in when times were hard but there is no place in football for sentiment.

    i,for one wish he was the chairman to bring us to the next level. i just dont think thats likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    And who does have this money, and actually wants to invest in City. Its not like there are bids flying in from all angles.
    I don't know. I asked the exact same question in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    Also, how do people know "that Lennox cannot afford to bring City the extra step"? Is there any basis for these claims?
    In Saturday's Echo, Lennox said 'someone else will have to step in and take the club to the next level' in a few years. Ya, that's ambition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner

    i,for one wish he was the chairman to bring us to the next level. i just dont think thats likely
    and who would you have in there instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner

    you might say there is no cash available but when is the last time city bought a player? what about this massive sponsorship deal we got?
    After some of the signings made by Dolan, I wouldnt leave him anywhere near a cheque book. Okay, he got Doyle directly. Gamble, Kearney etc would have ended up at City anyway, no matter who was in charge. Dont bother mentioning Danny Murphy either, as he contacted City offering his services.
    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    After some of the signings made by Dolan, I wouldnt leave him anywhere near a cheque book. Okay, he got Doyle directly. Gamble, Kearney etc would have ended up at City anyway, no matter who was in charge. Dont bother mentioning Danny Murphy either, as he contacted City offering his services.
    total contradiction gary. first of all u say u wouldnt leave him near a cheque book and then go on to name 4 great signings

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    Yes, but as I pointed out above, AFAIK, Dolan only directly influenced one of those transfers.

    Look at his other signings. Hedderman. Packer. Byrne. Yukoh. Casey. One was as bad as the next.
    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

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    Anyone got the time to type this article out, or send me a scan?

    adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    Anyone got the time to type this article out, or send me a scan?

    adam
    it's transcribed on corkcityfc.ie

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    Cheers Joe. Reading it, I reckon you could take the article either way depending on your outlook. The only "lack of ambition" I'd be concerned about would be the fact that he feels that soccer in Ireland is still run by hobbyists, including himself.

    If you read the article having already decided that Lennox is no good for the club, as thecorner seems to believe, then I guess you're going to pick up a "local" negative vibe from it. Me, I'd be surprised if any owner or manager in Ireland didn't feel the exact same.

    Personally, I believe that he's very much on the right track and needs to keep going that way if he wants Irish football to break out of this ridiculous hobbyist funk, and become a viable business interest.

    adam

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