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    Isn't Ronan Finn currently the highest paid player in the league?

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    Would Gannon be up there on the new deal? Shep would have gotten a decent bump with the transfer saga last year.

    As usual with this stuff the numbers spouted are usually utter nonsense. Wouldn't be surprised if the top earner was someone completely different
    Last edited by micls; 29/06/2018 at 4:55 PM.

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    Shiels after another of his ex-players.
    Aaron Splaine at Dunfermline.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...ap-up-12814940

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Conor Clifford supposed to have left Limerick, only 80 days after signing.
    Someone on our forum said he's signing for us. We do need a replacement for Garvan in the middle. Brendan Clarke also rumoured back to us.
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    As long as he's leaving by mutual consent and isn't free to go.

    That's the important thing here.
    Its probably irrelevant in the context of any players who are now departing, but the difference is very significant.

    Everyone "Free to go" means that your club would effectively have no control over who stays or goes, whereas "mutual consent" allows your club to try to agree the player departures on a case by case basis.

    Reducing the budget and staying in the premier division is difficult enough without actually trying to manage the make-up of the squad that is going to remain to fight for survival - tonight's win is a big step in the right direction
    Last edited by Ezeikial; 29/06/2018 at 10:47 PM. Reason: typos

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    Ive a funny feeling LTID was being ironical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner View Post
    Ive a funny feeling LTID was being ironical
    Probably.

    Although I get the feeling that the predominant attitude in Limerick is to slag off the club, rather than redouble the efforts to rally round in this crises

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    If Dundalk are paying McEleney 2k per week a signing on fee of 20k and a £50 transfer fee to Oldham for a guy who left for free in January the world has officially gone mad.

    The same fee amount for Duffy would mean these two players over the next year would cost Dundalk around 300k , that's a lot of a Europe run money gone unless it involves group stages.

    I find it hard to believe but it is the mirror I suppose
    Aren’t Oldham waving the transfer fee?

    Ironically Rovers have offered Duffy a deal to be the highest paid in the league reportedly. You’d question how Rovers could back that up as there is the possibility of no European football next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    If Dundalk are paying McEleney 2k per week a signing on fee of 20k and a £50 transfer fee to Oldham for a guy who left for free in January the world has officially gone mad.

    The same fee amount for Duffy would mean these two players over the next year would cost Dundalk around 300k , that's a lot of a Europe run money gone unless it involves group stages.

    I find it hard to believe but it is the mirror I suppose
    I think this is probably the reason for the delay in announcing the transfer or if it even will go through. Dundalk do not want to pay any transfer fee.
    #DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), first Irish club to win points in a group stage in Europe (2016).

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    This project craic might actual work out for Rovers.

    If St Kevins, Belvedere and others are accused of being "child traffickers" for sending 16 year olds across the water, whats the difference here with Rovers or other LoI clubs doing the same?

    Liverpool send their goalkeeping coach to watch young Shamrock Rovers netminder


    John Fallon
    July 1 2018 12:30 PM

    Jurgen Klopp may turn to an Irish teen to help ease his long-term goalkeeper problems after sending John Achterberg to watch Gavin Bazunu in action for Shamrock Rovers.

    Klopp’s goalkeeping coach was at Tallaght Stadium on Friday to watch the 16-year-old keep his third clean sheet on the spin in the 2-0 win over Derry City.
    More at
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37068382.html

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    No chance of rovers making Duffy highest paid player in league but every chance that like Gannon and a few others his agent will negotiate a better deal with dundaslk following the rovers link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    This project craic might actual work out for Rovers.

    If St Kevins, Belvedere and others are accused of being "child traffickers" for sending 16 year olds across the water, whats the difference here with Rovers or other LoI clubs doing the same?


    More at
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37068382.html
    The difference is glaringly obvious, LOI clubs are developing players for their first team but like first team players if they're made a decent offer they'll sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    This project craic might actual work out for Rovers.

    If St Kevins, Belvedere and others are accused of being "child traffickers" for sending 16 year olds across the water, whats the difference here with Rovers or other LoI clubs doing the same?
    Yeah good point. I suppose the difference is LoI clubs will try to hold onto them longer to get use out of them in their first teams. Aaron Bolger and Brandon Kavanagh for example can now complete their Leaving Cert before going overseas while playing and training professionally. Rather than being shipped off abroad at 15/16 and left with no education when released at 18. The very best players (like Banuzu) will always be taken overseas at that age regardless of whether theyre at a LoI club or Junior. The majority is in all the other players which we can hold for longer, complete their educations, and then command a bigger transfer fee to reinvest in grassroots further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buller View Post
    Yeah good point. I suppose the difference is LoI clubs will try to hold onto them longer to get use out of them in their first teams. Aaron Bolger and Brandon Kavanagh for example can now complete their Leaving Cert before going overseas while playing and training professionally. Rather than being shipped off abroad at 15/16 and left with no education when released at 18. The very best players (like Banuzu) will always be taken overseas at that age regardless of whether theyre at a LoI club or Junior. The majority is in all the other players which we can hold for longer, complete their educations, and then command a bigger transfer fee to reinvest in grassroots further.
    Yes. The big difference is the age at which they are likely to go to England. A couple of years of additional education will make it more likely that they will be better able to cope. In addition, I expect the numbers going over to consistently reduce. It will ultimately be only the very very best, and those players always have better choices. Some may decide to add third level education before embarking on a career in England.

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    The slave traders in Kevin's and belvo are happy to take 5k and send a kid over on 150 a week at 16 that's not the priority for rovers (or any loi club).
    In fairness the parents are as much at fault as the club. With the failure rate in England and the resultant problems for 95 percent of the kids who go over at 16 it's crazy that people see english academies as options.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 01/07/2018 at 8:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    Shiels after another of his ex-players.
    Aaron Splaine at Dunfermline.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...ap-up-12814940
    Sounds like our MGMT have decided it's Time To Get Splaine.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    The difference is glaringly obvious, LOI clubs are developing players for their first team but like first team players if they're made a decent offer they'll sell.
    LoI clubs are developing players and thats it, if they are in demand abroad they will go, generate financial return and clubs will roll out the 'not standing in their way' speil. I dont think we should be under the illusion that now there is a proper pathway being put in place for underage LoI that this is some benevolant project (for any LoI club). An averaged out return on revenues invested on player development over a period of time will be expected. Not hugely different from the current set up where the elite will have a go in England and the best of the rest end up at senior clubs here eventually.

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    It is hugely different though, when you look at it on a personal level rather than overall. After 10 years you might be looking at the same numbers overall, but when you look at the individuals, we should have far less kids going abroad too young, without a leaving cert, not making it leading to issues with self confidence and potentially mental health issues. They now have a viable alternative path that offers the chance to develop as a player and go abroad later if they're good enough.

    It's an absolutely enormous difference for our young players, regardless of what the final numbers look like.

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    We look at football too much in isolation, if there were any other professions applying the same principles to development there would be outrage.
    eg. we have 6 or whatever medical schools in the country but anyone who wants to become a really good doctor should go to the UK at 16 to do so?

    Is that over simplifying it? Serious question for once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner View Post
    We look at football too much in isolation, if there were any other professions applying the same principles to development there would be outrage.
    eg. we have 6 or whatever medical schools in the country but anyone who wants to become a really good doctor should go to the UK at 16 to do so?

    Is that over simplifying it? Serious question for once...

    No you are right , Shane Robinson the Academy Director at Rovers was quoted earlier this year making that exact point to the Press.
    He said if your 16 year old kid was offered to go away to England to become an Apprentice Electrician you wouldn't consider it if there was an alternative here.

    Parents and kids in the past were less educated about what happens in the UK.
    all you would hear is that x player is gone over to Liverpool etc when in reality they were gone to Liverpool academy where the would compete with 30 or 40 others for maybe 1 or 2 proper contracts.

    There is probably a very good goalkeeper in the Liverpool Academy right now and yet if Liverpool sign Bazuna he is probably for the chop. its a ruthless business

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