League of Ireland in Europe 2017

Originally Posted by historynut

Are you talking about the old ground Farrer Road short walk from station or new ground out of town.

Apologies pressed wrong response
This is reply to Nesta's statement about Bangor's ground.

2010/11 I was based there so Farrer Rd i am talking about. They were debating a move for the Honka match and i couldnt believe that the old ground was considered at all before the game was moved to Wrexham. Farrer Road was like United Parks poor cousin! Not seen the University Ground since any work was finished.

My view on the draw.

Dundalk - Aren't as good as last year as we all know but Rosenborg not as good as some of the other sides in that draw. Dundalk have a chance I think.
Cork - Very lucky with the draw again this year. I'd have them as favourites in that one.
Rovers - Hard to know really. Stjarnan went to PO round a few years ago beating Motherwell along the way. Maybe not as good as that team. Rovers bar 2011, generally bang average in Europe. 50/50
Derry - very difficult draw but I think Derry won't lose both legs.

Considering all teams unseeded, it's not the worst draw at all. Points towards Co-efficient possible for all 4 sides.

I see Bert has the new system up and collated. Interestingly Red Star have their 4 points for winning in 1990 but Partizan are still higher on the list due to decent performances over the last 10 years. And notably in Ireland St. Pats are the highest ranked Irish club at the moment followed by Dundalk and then Rovers. It will be interesting to see how this would have affected seeding for example this year... ?

Originally Posted by ger121

Derry - very difficult draw but I think Derry won't lose both legs.

I think we will, comfortably.
Within the last two years, Midtjylland have beat Southampton, Brugge, Legia Warsaw, and beaten Manchester United at home.
On the other hand, we can't defend set pieces. Could be a right hammering.

I'd rate chances of progression to their respective next round as follows:
Dundalk 33%
Cork City 51%
Shamrock Rovers 49%
Derry City 17%

Qualification knockout rounds are fraught with danger. Hopefully at least one club will be involved for at least 3 rounds but it'll be tough.

Originally Posted by legendz

I'd rate chances of progression to their respective next round as follows:
Dundalk 33%
Cork City 51%
Shamrock Rovers 49%
Derry City 17%

Qualification knockout rounds are fraught with danger. Hopefully at least one club will be involved for at least 3 rounds but it'll be tough.

I'd really love to know how you came up with those percentage chances.

City have clearly a much better chance of winning than Rovers.

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I'd really love to know how you came up with those percentage chances.

I'd see Dundalk having a 1 in 3 chance of going through. Cork marginally more than 50-50. Shamrock Rovers marginally less than 50-50. Derry City 1 in 6.

Originally Posted by legendz

I'd rate chances of progression to their respective next round as follows:
Dundalk 33%
Cork City 51%
Shamrock Rovers 49%
Derry City 17%

Qualification knockout rounds are fraught with danger. Hopefully at least one club will be involved for at least 3 rounds but it'll be tough.

Id bump them all up 10-15% and cork by 25%.

Dundalk 22.8%
Cork 70.1%
Rovers 41.1%
Derry 7.8%

This is fun, we should do this more often

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

City have clearly a much better chance of winning than Rovers.

No way. Derry's chances are much worse than Rovers.

Cork's chances, on the other hand, are probably better

Originally Posted by seand

Dundalk 22.8%
Cork 70.1%
Rovers 41.1%
Derry 7.8%

This is fun, we should do this more often

This could become a predictions league in it's own right.

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

This could become a predictions league in it's own right.

Good idea

Dundalk 1 Norway 4
Cork 3 Estonia 1
Rovers 4 Iceland 1
Derry 1 Denmark 3

Over two legs and bringing the international flavour to it + saves me trying the spelling

I get the impression that Rovers fans are underestimating Icelandic football. KR were better than us 2 years ago. Dundalk barely got passed FH last year before they beat BATE. If it was us, I'd be nervous. It's winnable, but I won't be putting a bet on it.

Dundalk 15%
Dundalk look like an old man being forced to go back into war- they won't last.
cork 55%
Bearing in mind corks exploits in Europe, they could royally f##k this up
Rovers 33.3333%
Rovers can't defend, and don't have a clinical striker. Don't even mention discipline.

Derry 10%
Crazy Kenny keeps telling us his team are young and inexperienced. Might cost them here.

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Good idea

Dundalk 1 Norway 4
Cork 3 Estonia 1
Rovers 4 Iceland 1
Derry 1 Denmark 3

Over two legs and bringing the international flavour to it + saves me trying the spelling

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I'd really love to know how you came up with those percentage chances.

Originally Posted by placid casual

Dundalk 15%
Dundalk look like an old man being forced to go back into war- they won't last.
cork 55%
Bearing in mind corks exploits in Europe, they could royally f##k this up
Rovers 33.3333%
Rovers can't defend, and don't have a clinical striker. Don't even mention discipline.

Derry 10%
Crazy Kenny keeps telling us his team are young and inexperienced. Might cost them here.

Our exploits in Europe? Is this another myth? You could argue that 2 years ago, but that KR side were the better side (marginally) over the 2 legs. I'd back us if we played them now. But when we've played in Europe over the past 13 years we've done very well. Better than most actually.

Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar

I get the impression that Rovers fans are underestimating Icelandic football. KR were better than us 2 years ago. Dundalk barely got passed FH last year before they beat BATE. If it was us, I'd be nervous. It's winnable, but I won't be putting a bet on it.

Just the usual optimism ......... I wouldn't underestimate the task at hand but better to live in hope than despair

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

That's vaguely disturbing...