Originally Posted by Galway Harps
yes thank god some one else can see what im saying well done man at least one or 2 have a well rounded view of football in this country , rather than sticking there heads in the sand thinking we have a league capible of challenging for any thing in europe
[QUOTE=Conor74]Not sure what team you are referring to, but I prefer watching quality football on balmy summer evenings, hence I go to Cork City games.
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha you are joking , im not sure which is more ludicrus "quality football and cork city" or balmy summer evenings !! where do you live coz we did nt have any balmy summer evening this year
Give me one example of where somebody says this?
The ball is round and has many surprises.
im not too sure what you are saying there of coarse if you take out all the good teams you will be left with rubbish . but still the facts are there, those milans and utds do contest every year in europe and if irish teams want to contest as well they must get as good ,which is what i want to see .
how is that a bad thing ?
i dont watch many championship games because they are rubbish the standard of football is rubbish as you say , i am also just as sick of watching el because the standard is worse than that of the championship ,
many fans feel the same way this is why attendences are dropping and you are more likely to see a utd or liverpool fan in ireland than a cork city fan
this i feel is a bad thing !!
you wont watch eng div 1 games because its rubbish but you will watch teams worse than them play worse . that makes no sence
we consently produce class footballers from this country but the only reason they get that good is because they are in england playing at a higher standard . now if the standard here was raised a lot more players could stay here and play in the el .which would allow us to be able to pick a national side with players from the el not just the odd token gesture to one or 2
i cant see how wanting to improve the league is such a bad thing to ye .
i dont think its good enough i dont think we should accept it just because they play rubbish football in the championship i really dont care what they play there
Last edited by anto1208; 09/02/2005 at 4:48 PM.
this season we proved that our champions were better than iceland and croatia, and a decent match for a french and spanish team. We also proved that our 2nd best team was good enough to beat a team thats just won the swedish league, a mid-table dutch side, and gave a good account of themselves to a decent french team.
above find a example of some body claiming that our champions were a decent match for a french and spanish team , i presume the spanish team is deportivo who are in the champs league yet again ! shels are nt
kids will follow the team thats winning the most thats why kids from the 80's are mainly liverpool fans from the 90's are mainly utd fans and by 2010 it will be chelsea .. I'd love to see City be as good as the Milans and Uniteds, but for the time being I'll remain in the real world.
The suggestion that people follow Liverpool or ManU becuase of quality of football is nonsense. Has the average 8 year old kid with a ManU top formed an opinion of the quality of football played at Turner's Cross and compared and contrasted that with the style used across the water? That's just hilarious. The average kid takes up following a foreign team because his friends follow them, or his family, or that was the schoolbag his parents bought him. Quality is an irrelevancy, do last years Arsenal fans start following Chelsea this year?
so if they dont understand good football why are nt they up watching cork instead of watching utd ?
why you brought up kids i dont know i was talking about adults being utd or liverpool fans instead of cork or shels fans . if utd and cork are on at the same time who has more people from cork watching them ? utd of course
oh my god this is what ive been saying all the time .
i said that the league isnt at a high enough standard to match teams in europe and i was shot down by loads saying coz they got a result against depor that they were as good as them .then it went into people trying to tell me that greece are better than france england portugal etc
premiership is just a more exiting league perfect example would be utd arsnil game just gone , it was a class game but the football was nt all that good . were as in real barca the football is really good but it would put you to sleep whatching it .
plus its the closest league to us the teams are reported on in the papers tv radio here a lot more than the spanish league so most people with any interest would know most teams most players in the prem which makes for a more enjoyable watching experience , you dont need hype
most people could name practically all the players in the prem off the tops of there head at least 5 from each team , i know i could nt get more than 20 from the spanish league and most of them would be real and barca
how is it high enough when our champs did nt get into the champs league .
challenging other rubbish teams is no good
ye are completely missing what im saying
class game to watch because of the atmosphere the tension etc etc im sure i dont have to explain why it was good .
but the football was crap : the football was nt generally that good arsnil never took it down and attacked utd really it was a scrappy encounter so it was nt enjoyed for the silky skill s but more the occation
ok the football played was a bad standard for those 2 teams it was still miles better than anything ever played in the el .that was just one game every other week utd and arsnil play with style and skill that would beat every team in ireland .
the atmosphere statement was about the atmosphere between the too teams ( players ) the hostility .since ive to spell every thing out to you
i said nothing about the crowd this was you reading what i write and and coming up with some thing completly different yet again ,
ill try to write as simply as i can
el is not at a high enough standard to allow our teams to compete in competitions in europe
if the standard was raised they could compete with the other teams that DO compete every year
you cant judge a team from a once off game eg if limerick beat real madrid in a once off this does nt mean limerick are better than them .
Last edited by anto1208; 09/02/2005 at 6:02 PM.
a poor attempt to wind me up .very poor .
You're going way off the Richter Scale there anto. Wtf is the 'atmosphere between the teams'? When someone refers to atmosephere at a game in this part of the world, it means the crowd reaction. And even if I accept your attempt to rehash the English language, when did kicking lumps out of each other amount to a 'good atmosphere between the teams'. So you like football with lots of hostility and little skill? I can see why you wouldn't go to Cork City games now, not enough blood and guts for your taste maybe?
atmosphere between the teams: hostility between the teams
i like football with lots of passion & lots of skill this cant be found in the el .
if you can name one team that could compete with the top clubs in europe ill give up and say you ve won
Last edited by anto1208; 09/02/2005 at 6:12 PM.
Anto is either on a wind up or a fool who keeps changing his story about why he hates the EL.
"Sure the qualitys rubbish, and that's all that matters"
"sure quality doesn't matter, Real V Barca is rubbish, I want the passion of the premiership!"
I wouldn't waste your time with it if I was you, Conor
Are they better? Shels scraped through on away goals against the champions of Iceland. The only reason that Shels and Cork won their European games, was because of summer football, and the fitness advantage it gave our clubs over their opponents, as shown by Shels' many late goals. You don't think our clubs would win their games, if the league started in September like other countries, do you? If you do, remember how Lille ran rings round Shels in Europe, except for the last 10 minutes in Lansdowne.
i dont hate the el i just think it would be better if the team were able to compete with teams all across europe , why is that so bad ?
when you use these "" it means you are quoting them if you are quoting some one you have to use sentances they actually said not pick and choose words to stick together .
all i said was i thought the arsnil utd game was exciting game to watch which it was and the last time i saw real and barca it was nt an exciting game to watch .
Every team Shels played had started their season by the time Shels played them.
you've just contradicted yourself AGAIN!How do you KNOW eircon League games are ALL boring? You don't. You're basing it on what YOU see only.
When we played Malmo they were in the middle of their season. I don't know about Iceland, but I would have thought they had summer football too. Fitness alone isn't enough.
It depends who they're playing. Lille are a very good side.
The only reason Cork beat Malmo was because Cork play Summer football too. If they were in pre-season against Malmo, Malmo would have won easily.
Coruna's league season started after they played Shels. Yes, Lille are a very good side. However, they're not Barcelona or AC Milan. Shels should have given it a good go at home, instead they made Lille look better than they are, as most Irish clubs do when they lose in Europe.
a sensible person on here at long last !!!
mate they just cant see that el teams are nt good enough to compete in the champs league ,so i dont think there is much point going on about this ,its ok when people dissagree with your posts but not when they start attacking you personally becuase you dont think the el is a good league you gotta know you ll never win !!
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