LOI & FAI Cup fixtures w/e 2/9/16

**legendz** · 03/10/2016, 8:04 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Not getting any euro money next year has to reduce pats budget seriously. You'll do well to hang on to the bigger earners fagen . The dennehys ...it's ridiculous how important the euro money has become.

Well ye had the money and it seems a club without it will rise above ye to take the final European place.

**sbgawa** · 03/10/2016, 9:06 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

Well ye had the money and it seems a club without it will rise above ye to take the final European place.

?? My point is that the euro money is becoming so big that it risks distorting the league. Fair play to derry this year but it means pats are weaker

**El-Pietro** · 03/10/2016, 9:35 PM

Theyd do well to be rid of the Dennehys. Billy anyway.

**legendz** · 03/10/2016, 9:46 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

?? My point is that the euro money is becoming so big that it risks distorting the league. Fair play to derry this year but it means pats are weaker

If European money was such an advantage we wouldn't be seeing poor Derry take a European place from Pat's. How have ye let the advantage slip? Was money spent badly?

Is it beyond Sligo, Pat's, Galway and Limerick to compete with the current top 4 next season?

Unless the top 4 have less than 7 days between 2 European games ye might exert influence as best ye can that games are not pushed back. Ye can make hay while they are cashing in on the European sunshine!

**sbgawa** · 03/10/2016, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

If European money was such an advantage we wouldn't be seeing poor Derry take a European place from Pat's. How have ye let the advantage slip? Was money spent badly?

Is it beyond Sligo, Pat's, Galway and Limerick to compete with the current top 4 next season?

Unless the top 4 have less than 7 days between 2 European games ye might exert influence as best ye can that games are not pushed back. Ye can make hay while they are cashing in on the European sunshine!

Wow bitter and twisted or what...I hope the sun always shines for you. My point stands I think euro money has thecan end up distorting the league and believe it or not I'm not talking about dundalk ...life outside.....I'm talking about the couple of hundred grand for even one round.

**Nesta99** · 04/10/2016, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

?? My point is that the euro money is becoming so big that it risks distorting the league. Fair play to derry this year but it means pats are weaker

So what exactly is distorting the league? That the top 3 or 4 this season will on merit compete in Europe and reap financial reward? The only thing of recent that was even remotely distorting about clubs' European involvement was UCD's fine displays last season in EL and Shamrock Rovers this season with their relative stature in League of Ireland but Id call that more amusing than distorting!

No offence UCD fan!

**White Horse** · 04/10/2016, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Wow bitter and twisted or what...I hope the sun always shines for you. My point stands I think euro money has thecan end up distorting the league and believe it or not I'm not talking about dundalk ...life outside.....I'm talking about the couple of hundred grand for even one round.

If your objective is to stop "distorting" factors then you have your work cut out. Lots to do.

No money investment from People like Sullivan and Kelliher.
Clubs with big crowds would need to subsidise clubs with no crowds.
No subsidising of club grounds for the likes of Shamrock Rovers (and Bohs in the future).

**sbgawa** · 04/10/2016, 9:37 AM

Originally Posted by White Horse

If your objective is to stop "distorting" factors then you have your work cut out. Lots to do.

No money investment from People like Sullivan and Kelliher.
Clubs with big crowds would need to subsidise clubs with no crowds.
No subsidising of club grounds for the likes of Shamrock Rovers (and Bohs in the future).

All of the above are valid points to varying degrees but my original point was that I felt sorry for Pats (genuinely !) because if you look at their average crowd basic Maths would dictate that Euro money is almost the same income as a full season of ticket sales (taking into account concessions and season tickets etc).
They are a side that tries to play a decent brand of football (managed by one of the leagues best managers) and their budget for next year will probably be a lot lower meaning they lose some of their better players simply because they didn't qualify for Europe. Lots to do for sure and I don't have the answers, bottom line we need to get bigger crowds and more promotion of the league so that the European money (as well as other things) are less big a factor.
500 extra on the gate at each home match would be almost 200k in revenue....there's the only real answer, Dundalk this year and a repeat by someone next year will help.

**El-Pietro** · 04/10/2016, 10:02 AM

Won't their budget be reduced the year after next? They will get the money from this years Euro run for next season. Its 2018 when they won't have that money, by which point they may have qualified again.

**sbgawa** · 04/10/2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Won't their budget be reduced the year after next? They will get the money from this years Euro run for next season. Its 2018 when they won't have that money, by which point they may have qualified again.

Fair point but either way they will have a gap year, also LOI clubs often borrow against their euro money as they have the expenses involved to pay at the time both travel etc and players bonuses.
But yeah there might be a one year semi safety net, I guess we will know when they are resigning players or next year.
I hope they plug the gap Buckley deserves a bit of luck/credit

**Ezeikial** · 04/10/2016, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

their budget for next year will probably be a lot lower meaning they lose some of their better players simply because they didn't qualify for Europe.

It's chicken and egg -

The loss of some of their better players is the main reason they didn't qualify this season

St Patricks Athletic: Brendan Clarke; Ian Bermingham, Darren Dennehy, Sean Hoare, Ger O’Brien; Lee Desmond, Graham Kelly (Michael Barker, 74) ; Billy Dennehy (Dinny Corcoran, 79), Jamie McGrath, Conan Byrne (Mark Timlin, 74 ); Christy Fagan.
http://www.extratime.ie/articles/176...1-3-cork-city/

The absence of Europe along with few realistic prospects of the league could lead to further players wanting to exit.

Christy Fagan and Sean Hoare are the obvious players that might attract attention from the top two, although Ian Bermingham, Conan Byrne and Jamie McGrath are all decent players

**dundalkfc10** · 04/10/2016, 12:06 PM

Anyone know if any radio station in Derry does commentary on their games?

Dundalk FM not travelling

**pineapple stu** · 04/10/2016, 12:12 PM

Drive 105 usually have coverage.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 04/10/2016, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by dundalkfc10

Anyone know if any radio station in Derry does commentary on their games?

Dundalk FM not travelling

Radio foyle generally have derry matches

**nigel-harps1954** · 04/10/2016, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by dundalkfc10

Anyone know if any radio station in Derry does commentary on their games?

Dundalk FM not travelling

Drive 105 as stated, or possibly BBC Radio Foyle. Either way, there'll be live updates at least on both of those. Failing that, you'll be able to get the dodgy BWIN stream somewhere handy.