Liam Kelly (M Feyenoord (loaned to Oxford) b.1995)

**OwlsFan** · 20/03/2018, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by Diggs246

Im really disappointed he is a lovely player, terrible decision I have to say, he will never play for England

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36724753.html

Yes, very bad news ok. When someone called Liam Kelly sets his heart on England, it is a sad state of affairs. Time for this thread to move to World Football and to rot along side the Jack Grealish thread.

**DannyInvincible** · 20/03/2018, 5:11 PM

He hasn't actually declared for England. It seems he is going to hold off on getting too involved in our senior set-up for now or making what might be perceived as a sort of moral commitment. He is a dual national, after all. Of course, he'll probably jump at the chance to play for England if the FA offer it to him, so it doesn't look good for us from that perspective, but he still might end up sticking with us.

I am disappointed as he looks like he'll be a great talent, but it's ultimately his choice what to do with that talent.

**Stuttgart88** · 20/03/2018, 9:39 PM

Never trust a shortarse

**Dunners** · 20/03/2018, 10:25 PM

Danny should be no excuse here , he knows the rubbish that went on with the Grealish affair.
Made a big deal about how proud and Irish he is.
Should not be playing till this level before needing time to make a decision , if your Irish you know it , irrelevant of where you were born. Could be born in a stable doesn’t make you a donkey

**tricky_colour** · 20/03/2018, 10:32 PM

It is a bit of a Grealish situation but at least he was been pretty up front what his preferences are, so credit for that but it kind
of makes any future Ireland call up rather awkward.

I guess he missed the rugby at the weekend.

**CraftyToePoke** · 20/03/2018, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dunners

Could be born in a stable doesn’t make you a donkey

Neither does it make you the messiah.

We will rise again.

He probably won't.

I suppose, since he started representing us about five years ago, to his now age of 22, your view of your place in the world, your identity forms a lot, can change a lot also. Or maybe its just another agent in a lads ear with bad advice serving only the agent well should an unlikely set of circumstances prevail here, i.e. a Prem move and from there to England reckoning. One thing is for sure, how he has handled this could not have been poorer (so poor it makes me wonder if there is something we don't yet know). I have lived in the UK since 2005 and my view of dual lads has softened in that time, some feel English, some Irish, and some do just feel both, that they can credibly represent either nation. But there is a way of handling that, respectfully, and Liam Kelly failed badly in that.

**DannyInvincible** · 21/03/2018, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dunners

Danny should be no excuse here , he knows the rubbish that went on with the Grealish affair.
Made a big deal about how proud and Irish he is.
Should not be playing till this level before needing time to make a decision , if your Irish you know it , irrelevant of where you were born. Could be born in a stable doesn’t make you a donkey

I'm not doubting he feels Irish, but maybe he feels English too and is genuinely conflicted. It's possible to feel both Irish and English simultaneously. It would hardly be surprising if you have both Irish and English grandparents.

**gastric** · 21/03/2018, 12:23 AM

A certain Clinton Morrison procrastinated before deciding to represent Ireland and his commitment and passion to the cause were always evident. Give Kelly time, hopefully he will make the right decision.

**Razors left peg** · 21/03/2018, 1:07 AM

At 22 having been in the set up for a number of years he should know what he wants by now.

Very disrespectful that he wouldn't even answer MONs calls and just sent a text to say that he didn't want to be involved... that speaks volumes for his character I think. Hes probably looking at the England squad with Jake Livermore getting call ups and thinks he has a good chance, he probably does, Ive been impressed with him with the little I seen of him so its a pity that we have probably lost him. But maybe we are well rid if he cant even bother his ar$e having the manners or respect for a senior figure in the game to even answer a phone call.

**Charlie Darwin** · 21/03/2018, 1:09 AM

Clinton wasn't a shortarse though. I don't think Stutts stressed this enough.

**Olé Olé** · 21/03/2018, 6:20 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

At 22 having been in the set up for a number of years he should know what he wants by now.

Very disrespectful that he wouldn't even answer MONs calls and just sent a text to say that he didn't want to be involved... that speaks volumes for his character I think. Hes probably looking at the England squad with Jake Livermore getting call ups and thinks he has a good chance, he probably does, Ive been impressed with him with the little I seen of him so its a pity that we have probably lost him. But maybe we are well rid if he cant even bother his ar$e having the manners or respect for a senior figure in the game to even answer a phone call.

Refusing to answer calls doesn't speak much to his character really, does it? He sounds more Jack Grealish than Declan Rice. Both of whole had PL experience under their belts when MON was picking up the phone.

**DeLorean** · 21/03/2018, 8:41 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

At 22 having been in the set up for a number of years he should know what he wants by now.

That's the problem I think, he does know. It's just not what we want.

It does seem like it could have been handled better alright but we've only heard one side of the story.

**backstothewall** · 21/03/2018, 8:44 AM

Very badly handled by Kelly. The whole text message thing is very poor. It's the sort of thing you would expect of a teenager, not a 22 year old man. There is a point there about how sheltered these players are by their clubs and the impact that has on their personality, but I can't be bothered getting in to it.

He's a bright prospect but he's a year older than Deli Alli and playing at the bottom end of the championship. Exposure to international football with us was his best opportunity to demonstrate his capacity to play at a higher level. It's a loss to the squad but he is the biggest loser here.

But no ill will towards him. If this is how he feels It's best we find out now. We move on with what we have.

He will never get anywhere near then England squad.

**Diggs246** · 21/03/2018, 11:19 AM

Reading are 5th last in the championship and could easily go down, he should be biting off our hand off to play. If they do go down and he is an Irish international, he 100% gets bought

**IsMiseSean** · 21/03/2018, 12:48 PM

For some reason, I think there is more to this than just Liam Kelly waiting for a call from England.

Call it a hunch!

**Olé Olé** · 21/03/2018, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by IsMiseSean

For some reason, I think there is more to this than just Liam Kelly waiting for a call from England.

Call it a hunch!

Spill...

**Diggs246** · 21/03/2018, 2:51 PM

Originally Posted by IsMiseSean

For some reason, I think there is more to this than just Liam Kelly waiting for a call from England.

Call it a hunch!

Ok Detective Columbo... we are waiting?

**Fixer82** · 21/03/2018, 2:57 PM

The little boll!x.

Ah no, if he doesn’t feel it then good luck to him. Shame for us but I’d rather him be honest than take a jersey from someone bursting a gut to get it