Jamaican P.M.
People from D4 or at least the wealthy parts of it are snobby. Snobbery as a concept was imported lock stock and barrel from our Anglo Saxon oppressors.
Therefore D4 snobs are West Brits
I live in Blackrock and Im not a snob. Im not a West Brit either. Its wrong to stereo-type people. Some of the greatest Irish people came from Dublin 4. Its quite ironic that you came to D4 to get an education, you support a D4-based football team, yet you see fit to criticise the inhabitants.Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
Last edited by TheJamaicanP.M.; 29/01/2005 at 10:58 PM.
"Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe." Dillo
Blackrock is not in D4 , it is in County Dublin for the record. And I speak from experience. Yes I support a D4 based soccer club, but then there is no snobbery in soccer now is there?
P.S. Shelbourne and Shamrock ROvers both originated in Ringsend whose postal district is......D4
Last edited by CollegeTillIDie; 30/01/2005 at 1:17 PM.
I don't think snobbery is the preserve of the British. There are numerous snobbish societies around the world that have had no British interference. Prob with D4 (which is not strictly limited to D4) is this obsession with Britain. Can't wait for Brenda (aka the German Lady) to visit Dublin.
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That sir,is the right answer!
Be careful Dav, we don't want to upset anybody.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
So to fight racism you become a racist yourself. Nah, I dont think so.
Who said anything about fighting racism and becoming one. If people over here are going to have smartass names for other nationalitys, then they can expect the same in return.
A lot of people don't think Irish jokes are racist, so in that case neither is the word tan.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
What you are doing is calling tham all by a blanket term.Who said anything about fighting racism and becoming one. If people over here are going to have smartass names for other nationalitys, then they can expect the same in return.
A lot of people don't think Irish jokes are racist, so in that case neither is the word tan.
That is what racism is about - reducing a nation to a catch-all term. Ireland is made up of people of different views and outlooks just as England is or any other nation under the sun.
Btw A lot of people do think the word paddy is racist which does make the word Tan racist. Do unto others what...... blah, blah
Didn't you once call Celtic fans peasents, which surely puts you in both the above mentioned categories.
Where am I now? I'm over here,
I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
A Man U fan that doesn't know anything about football NEVER !!!!!!
Bye bye Stan. Go off back to collecting cones you useless git.
Ode to a Louse
Are we talking about blanket term's about ingurrlish people in the same way that Irish people had to put up with blanket terms of abuse through the media that often lead to abuse in the work place during the 70's and 80s ecspecially, of course we're not.
For a country that was happy to have smart @ss nickname's for people from other nations, they can't complain to have one about themselves now can they.
I take it you must have been typing letters to papers and getting upset when thick Paddy jokes and cartoons as well as other abuse through the voice of the media were being dished out to the Irish community here which in many ways done its best to demonise our community, or is it a case of not offending them back in return now that Ireland has fallen for cheap English papers pretending to be Irish and Sky TV.
As for the inguuurlish national team, most of us 2g's around here call them the tans, as well as that media you back home have fallen for. I guess in your book thats racism, well if calling the self appionted football master race the tans means your racist, then on that note i'm racist and am not one bit sorry about it.
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Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
For someone who likes to insist that a country is made up of 'different views and outlooks' you sure seem to think that the words 'tans' - or my favourite, 'scum' - used in a footballing sense are blanketing all English, or to be precise, British people. Funny how both you, and most definitely Macy as he posted such a view last year, think that the Scum with the three hyenas on their chest is the only true definition of what being English (British) is all about. The holy cow that if you insult them, you insult a nation.
As for racism, who brought in racism into names like Paddy? Do you seriously think we'd be p*ssed at being called Paddy if it was not associated with the prefix 'Thick'? Where are the 'thick Tan' English jokes? And this sort of thing didn't start with a few boozy, northern 'comedians' (sic.) in the early seventies. It started as early as the 13C coming of age in the nineteenth century with the advent of social-Darwinism, a very interesting branch of 'science' unconnected to Charles himself, that argued that the Irish and Africans were simian, subhuman and the missing link in the evolutionary chain between human and ape.
http://www.fact-index.com/s/so/social_darwinism.html
Always on the look out for the education of our free-state friends who missed out on the 'emigration' bit of Irish history, take a look at this.
http://www.lib.virginia.edu/small/ex.../imperial.html
The leading authority on the history of the racialisation of the Irish by the British media is 'Nothing But The Same Old Story: The Roots of Anti-Irish Racism' by Liz Curtis whois English with no Irish roots. Hope you don't recognise yourself in any of the faces on the cover.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P...2.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
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Many many years ago the Gael invaded Scotland, took over their country and imposed our language on them.
Sure they were only coming home during Ulster Plantation. Nothing like ethic Irish people leaving Britian and 400 years later claiming to be British eh
Oh no not them again
The notion of the validity of the 'Cruithin' has been largely quesitoned and is only brought up by certain loyalists to legitimise the partition of Ireland. In general unionists give as much a f*ck about that as they do of Cuchallain - something to wheel out and wave at nationalists when it suits them to which they immediately start to get confused when the same hero is honoured with GAA clubs calling themselves after him (add to the 'racist' red hand symbol). Scotland faced a more long lasting invasion by both Vikings and Anglo-Saxons so I can't see where the idea of ethnic Irish comes into it. The only thing that remains is the place's name - the Scots originally lived in Ireland while the Picts lived in what is now called Scotland - and a language in worse shape than Irish.Many many years ago the Gael invaded Scotland, took over their country and imposed our language on them.
Sure they were only coming home during Ulster Plantation. Nothing like ethic Irish people leaving Britian and 400 years later claiming to be British eh
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Looking at those photos only confirms Wayne Rooney must be Irish.
"Must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love you knowing nothing."
http://worddok.blogspot.com
Dunno about whether he got his good looks from the Irish side of the family but he certainly looks the spitting image of Mr Irish Stereotype 1881.
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think that 1881 image/cartoon is the work of German American Thomas Nast, which wouldn't make it British,...could be wrong.
You know your racist Irish cartoons.
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is that the FF[SIZE=1]the republican-ish party[/SIZE] party line on the matter?Many many years ago the Gael invaded Scotland, took over their country and imposed our language on them.
Sure they were only coming home during Ulster Plantation. Nothing like ethic Irish people leaving Britian and 400 years later claiming to be British eh
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