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    Gmail Pros and Cons

    Yeah, yeah ... lots of space yeah, nothing Outlook couldn't do for me ..... so


    Why cant you send a mail to yourself in gmail ?? (it appears in the sent but not inbox, even in replies)

    Why doesn't flush the cache like other email accounts, by that i mean when you hit refresh nothing happens even though a mail has been sent to you and others, and the others have received it ages ago ??

    Will they ever improve the usablity of it ??

    Why does it seem so glitchy ??
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    I don't have any of these problems with my gmail.

    Are you sure your problems aren't somewhere between the seat and the keyboard?
    don't worry, they couldn't hit an elephant at this dis......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith
    Are you sure your problems aren't somewhere between the seat and the keyboard?

    Nah, everything is perfect there !! .... well aside from my tendency to moan a bit !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Why cant you send a mail to yourself in gmail ?? (it appears in the sent but not inbox, even in replies)

    Will they ever improve the usablity of it ??

    Why does it seem so glitchy ??
    I often send mails to myself without any problems. In your Inbox it appears as Me. I like the usability and think its much better than any other webmail service out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finlma
    I often send mails to myself without any problems. In your Inbox it appears as Me.
    I know ... i see that, but some mails dont get there. i have tested it. If i reply all, from my gmail or other it get it all the time (well at least i have noticed anything missing thatway) but definitely some go missing, and they are in the sent items, check address etc. ... others receive it, not myself.

    "Chríst man ... i'm not making this up !!"

    I like the usability and think its much better than any other webmail service out there.
    Well i suppose that would be a matter of choice aswell though.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    You should send gmail an email with your issues. They usually respond. Gmail is only a beta version and not a full release so there are bound to be some problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Why cant you send a mail to yourself in gmail ??
    My god you were actually sad enough to try it?
    Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    My god you were actually sad enough to try it?

    I know yeah .... and i still didn't get a reply !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Why cant you send a mail to yourself in gmail ?? (it appears in the sent but not inbox, even in replies)
    So move it from Sent to Inbox. Why do you need two copies?

    Why doesn't flush the cache like other email accounts, by that i mean when you hit refresh nothing happens even though a mail has been sent to you and others, and the others have received it ages ago ??
    Gmail uses XMLHTTP to suck just the necessary information required to refresh your Inbox, negating the need for traditional full reloads from the server. So hitting the Inbox link on the left-hand side - Gmail does this periodically on it's own anyway - will pull down the latest folder count and messages and "push" them into the interface. Obviously this is far better than reloading the whole page.

    With this in mind, I fail to see the usability problems, or "glitches"? That's the way it's supposed to be, you're just not using it right.

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    i seem to be havin loggin in from certain computers.
    it gets thru the password and sh1t then says LOADING.....
    then nothin
    "If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better." Johan Cruyff

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    If ya pay (or not as this case is) peanuts you get internet mail monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by $Leon$
    i seem to be havin loggin in from certain computers.
    it gets thru the password and sh1t then says LOADING.....
    then nothin
    Won't work for outdated/obscure browsers, that could be the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    If ya pay (or not as this case is) peanuts you get internet mail monkeys.
    Anyone using webmail as their primary email account needs their head seeing to. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    Anyone using webmail as their primary email account needs their head seeing to. *shrug*

    That's true but the quality of service from the leading webmail providers is very good. You're getting a top notch service for FREE!

    A license for a single Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 Enterprise Edition is USD$3,999 and each user license on top of that is USD$67
    That's the type of money your company will have to pay just for the software to provide you with an e-mail account.
    Throw in a decent spec. HP Proliant with High Availability, an adequate storage unit and backup solution and you're easily talking another USD$20,000
    The hardware prices are higher in Ireland.

    Be grateful for the decent choice of free webmail available.
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    Anyone using free webmail in an enterprise environment should be shot.

    Anyone using Microsoft solutions for email should be hung, drawn and quartered for wasting company time and money.

    adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    Anyone using Microsoft solutions for email should be hung, drawn and quartered for wasting company time and money.
    Now, now Adam, we all need to earn a living somehow.
    You'll be hanging, drawing and quartering the largest corporations in the world.


    BTW I wasn't suggesting that a company should use webmail solutions as their primary mail. I was merely pointing out the costs involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    Won't work for outdated/obscure browsers, that could be the problem.

    that could be the problem thanx
    "If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better." Johan Cruyff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    You'll be hanging, drawing and quartering the largest corporations in the world.
    How bad.

    BTW I wasn't suggesting that a company should use webmail solutions as their primary mail. I was merely pointing out the costs involved.
    Apples and oranges, chalk and cheese. A more realistic comparison would be an ISP POP3 account (usually free) and regular email client (usually free).

    Obviously some people can't use POP3 because they travel around a lot, but even if that was the case, if my email was any way important at all, my primary account would have to be with a tried and trusted commercial webmail operator that doesn't try to assert control or ownership over my mail.

    You have zero control over your mail with the freemail crowds, they could delete the lot by accident or intentionally and be completely covered.

    adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta
    You have zero control over your mail with the freemail crowds, they could delete the lot by accident or intentionally and be completely covered.
    Exactly.

    I'm paying about $30 a year for domain+mail (they upgraded me to 1GB when Gmail started goiving for free) & problems at all. Once i'm setup for broadband with download to my local client.

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    One problem I have with Gmail and the reason I haven't changed over from Hotmail yet, is that when you get those joke e-mails that you want to forward to friends, with hotmail you can just click your friends name from the contacts list on the side and it adds their address. With gmail you have to type the address. Is there a way around this that I'm missing?

    For those who still use hotmail, you can follow the instructions below to get 250MB of space for free. It works.



    >>When you're logged into hotmail select `options'. Change profile
    >>to: country: US, state: Florida, ZIP code: 33332. Then log out of
    >>hotmail and go to: http://memberservices.passport.net. Log inot
    >>this and choose: close NET passport.account and follow the next
    >>steps (contact hotmail, close my account). Don't worry, you wont
    >>lose anything.
    >>
    >>Now re-open hotmail and log in as normal, then choose 'activate my
    >>account' and you will get 25 MB for free, the other 225 MB follow
    >>in a month.
    >>
    >>Loads of people I know have done it and it does work. You don't
    >>lose anything on your account, and you can immediately see you have
    >>25 MB instead of 2 MB.
    The glass isn't half full or half empty it's just too damn big!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedite
    For those who still use hotmail, you can follow the instructions below to get 250MB of space for free. It works.

    You could also just put in a UK address and get a @Hotmail.co.uk account. You've a better chance of getting something which resembles your name. Anyone stuck for a UK postal address could just use the address of their fav football club which is normally listed under "Contact Us" on their website.
    I expect I'll have people having a go at me now for promoting .co.uk addresses!
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