Depends who you mean by "they".
I live in a part of Glasgow with a very high immigrant population (mainly Chinese and Iraqi, from the people I've had a chance to talk to). It's a very nice, very safe area, with some amazing restaurants as part of the bargain.
A few streets over is a predominantly white British area with some of the worst crime and drug abuse in the UK.
It's not immigration causing crime and antisocial behaviour, it's social inequality. The fact that the UK (and many other countries) have failed the migrant populations they relied on for cheap labour, so they are disproportionately the victims of social inequality, is not in itself an indictment of migrants.
Have you followed this story at all? Is it accurate? They can't report on the Muslims committing crimes anymore? Gavin McInnis has been discussing it a lot. I like Gavin. He is one of the few people who will really talk about a major major issue with the migrant populations few will discuss even though it's true. Anyway,
https://www.therebel.media/save_tommy
Haha of course it's not accurate for god's sake.
Well it's being reported about Charlie. I don't care one way or the other but just BC you are Left Wing it's like nothing outside of that bubble exists to you or DannyI.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tomm...binson&tbm=nws
Haha ok
Yes, you're right, I'm clearly misinformed about Tommy Robinson and he's probably not a white supremacist turd who got arrested for harassing people.
But the crime was real right?
Who can't report on "the Muslims" committing crimes anymore?
The case and alleged crime you refer to isn't being ignored at all; it has been reported upon here by the local press in Kent: http://www.kentlive.news/ex-girlfrie...ail/story.html
Here is a Daily Mail (circulation: 1.5 million) story on it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hop-owner.html
And something from the Daily Mirror (circulation: 700,000): http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-girl-10351831
Another local outlet covering it here: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/n...asking-125034/
Even Cosmopolitan magazine has given it coverage: http://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/repor...-shop-workers/
It even made it's way across the Irish Sea and into the Irish Sun too: https://www.thesun.ie/news/948087/gi...out-with-pals/
And it seems that the highly-partisan Rebel's version of events may not be entirely accurate, no. It portrays its UK contributor "Tommy Robinson", who is actually named Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, to have been a victim of police persecution who has had his right to freedom of speech arbitrarily infringed.
However, according to numerous other media reports, "Robinson" was actually arrested for contempt of court after receiving a police warning. It has been reported that he attempted to film (or interview) some of the accused in the aforementioned case from the court steps. His attempt to do so was in breach of the UK's contempt laws which prohibit filming of court precincts.
Any person would have been arrested for committing the same offence as "Robinson" committed. I suspect the offence exists to uphold the integrity and dignity of the judicial system and to protect the privacy of victims, witnesses and defendants.
What doesn't exist, according to me?
I've not been following proceedings, but from what I can make out, the trial is ongoing and the court has yet to reach a verdict. The accused parties may well be found guilty. Or they may be found not guilty. It would be imprudent and ill-advised to presume or declare the guilt of the accused until a verdict confirming such has been passed down.
Anyway, what's the subtext here? What point are you trying to make exactly? Let's get to the nub of it. Are you trying to imply that rape and sexual abuse are Muslim issues? That's the impression I'm getting.
If that's what you're attempting to suggest, you must have missed this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathol...dal_in_Ireland
That was the Irish Catholic Church's sexual abuse scandal. It was pretty big news here.
Now, let's look at some other stats and facts...
From Rape Crisis Network Ireland:
From Rape Crisis Midwest (Ireland):Originally Posted by Rape Crisis Network Ireland
From Rape Crisis England & Wales:Originally Posted by Rape Crisis Midwest
Do you think Muslims are to blame for such figures?... The reality is that rape and sexual abuse are much wider societal problems. They have always been a feature of Western/Christian-Judeo/white society (or whatever you wish to call it), and since long before there was ever a political incentive to stir up a crude moral panic about "Islamic immigration" by demonising a poor, brown-skinned ethnic minority desperately fleeing war and lazily rendering them the scapegoats for society's ills.Originally Posted by Rape Crisis England & Wales
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 11/05/2017 at 12:44 AM.
Robinson is not a white supremacist. At the weekend, I watched all of his speech to the Oxford Union and he tells his story and how and why he became the person he did. One of the things he gets across well is the fact that he is not a white supremacist and is actually despised by nazi and white power groups due to his condemnation of them and his (ultimately unsuccessful - that's why he left) efforts to keep them out of the EDL.
However, he is a convicted criminal and an Islamophobe. His issue is not with individual Muslims but it is with extremist Islam and widespread tolerance of it and he is very clear about this. Some of what he says is still questionable but some of it makes sense. He's a product of his environment and experiences. He cites Lutons own Anjem Choudary and the impact of growing up in that rabid and extreme environment. He describes the hate speech and treatment that he and his family and neighbours were subject to and was allowed to occur (he feels that a different standard is applied to free speech in preference of Islamic extremism v his criticisms of Islamic preaching and incompetent authorities). He also describes the absolute atrocities set out in the Rotherham report ie the systematic rape and abuse of 1400 girls by Muslim gangs. The Rochdale and other similar reports where Muslim gangs were targeting white girls for rape and abuse. He talks about the frustration of seeing cover ups and inaction by the authorities and how all of this perceived or real injustice sowed the seeds for the EDL across the U.K. Ultimately, he says he wants debate and discourse about these issues and for Muslims to fix these problems. He condemned many of the actions of the EDL under his watch and the impacts of what he was saying and realised that he failed to contain the fervour. His speech was well received by many of those in attendance. And he comes across well despite being a terrible speaker.
He is many things - and I don't think his rhetoric is ultimately helpful - but to label him as a white supremacist is inaccurate and lazy.
Last edited by SkStu; 11/05/2017 at 2:01 AM.
He may not be a white supremacist, but more importantly is he a humanist?
haha the old "nazis hate me" chestnut.
Right, so being a member of the BNP and then forming his own gang of skinheads were entirely accidental.
Whatever about the validity or invalidity of his views on muslims, the idea he is somehow above racism or has ever opposed it is ridiculous. He's just modified his language from overt racism to 'woe is me, white working class men are the lowest class of citizen' ****e American racists have had so much joy with in the past.
Watch the video.
I see a related "Q & A" video here too:
Yep. Watched both. Q&A wasn't great.
Just on these matters, the following study - 'Child Grooming and Sexual Exploitation: Are South Asian Men the UK Media’s New Folk Devils?' - in the International Journal of Crime, Justice and Social Democracy is of relevance: https://www.crimejusticejournal.com/...e/view/214/185
It concludes:
Originally Posted by Aisha K Gill and Karen Harrison
I'm glad you've watched it but I'm surprised it didn't have more impact. It could be convincing because it's true, of course. Not sure what he has to gain from lying.
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