I'm with her.
I am not sure exactly how a victory for Le Pen would impact Northern Ireland at all - outside of some more broad impact to Europe as a result of a Frexit which is not yet a certainty even if Le Pen wins. But I am seriously interested in learning more on what that might be.
If you believe that Le Pen is a fair indication of significant concern amongst a notable number of French people then you should really be asking yourself why - what has caused this. Unchecked globalization and the rise of Islamic terrorism are major concerns for a lot of people. I am all in favour of any sovereign nation that wants to (votes to) protect its interests in the ways that it sees fit. We should expect the French to only care about the French.
You just provided the answer.
Brexit has completely re-invigorated the constitutional debate here. It has provided a geo-political dynamic that didn't exist before, so whilst for Britain Brexit is now a one-way ticket, for Northern Ireland there is an automatic right of return. Essentially - unite Ireland and you reunite with Europe.
So, even though Le Pen has rowed back somewhat on her anti-EU rhetoric, a victory for her casts a shadow over this.
Of course, and much of that applies to Trump's success in America. I'm not disputing that at all.
Perhaps then you'll apply that sentiment, first and foremost, to your fellow countrymen and women North of the border.
Good stuff. I wasn't sure if there was something else I was missing. You know, listening to many pre Brexit, you would swear the sky was falling in for Ireland if they voted "Leave". Now that they have, what we realize is that it has actually opened up a lot of opportunity for us and, perhaps, the "experts" are really just making it up as they go. While a Frexit - were it to be a) brought to the French people and b) passed - would be another blow to the power of the EU, I don't think it would mean a whole lot more for Ireland or Northern Ireland than it would to other states. I think the opportunities Brexit created will still exist. Fundamental to this believe is that I also believe there will still be an EU, it will just be a more diluted version. And, principally, that is what I think is best. I think the EU has overreached far beyond its original mandate.
Absolutely, it was just general comment to explain my thinking behind the next couple of sentences. I wasn't saying that you were arguing the other way. Apologies for not being clear.
Absolutely. But, ultimately, they must take the action that is necessary to achieve that outcome - if that is what the majority wants. And if the French do vote to leave Europe, Ireland must still look out for Ireland and the people of Northern Ireland must still do what they believe is best for them.
I actually don't think we are disagreeing too much.
I love the attempts to somehow justify Le Pen with long-winded debate. She's a racist, sectarian, far-right nutjob that'll damage both France and Europe, and as part of the bizarre far-right global lurch going on at the moment, probably the rest of the globe too.
Macron is an asswipe - they were all asswipes on some level - but they're all better than Le Pen, in the same way Clinton would have been better than Trump, and Obama was better than his opponents, despite their own failings.
Jesus, even Corbyn would be better than that zombie hag May, and he's a complete fupping moron.
Le Pen would be a very significant nail in all of our coffins.
Now that the other dominoes haven't fallen after Britain the establishment have a full election cycle to work with. The politics of this are that Britain is going to be hit and hit hard. The likes of Wilders & Le Pen aren't going anywhere so the experience of Brexit will have to be made so awful for Britain that no country will ever dream of attempting it.
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
Will Macron's financial strategy be know as Macroneconomics?
But Peadar aren't things kind of a mess right now in different regards? Don't they blame EU migration law for things like this:
https://heatst.com/world/violent-lon...eorges-school/
It's a useful thing for the EU to encourage. Losing provinces is exactly the sort of language neo-fascists will understand.
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
'Journalists as State Functionaries': https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...functionaries/
Originally Posted by Craig Murray
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