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Thread: Italy V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 23rd June 2016 - Euro 2016 Group E

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    The odds are against it but you've got to see the positives. I think O'Neill is planning for a tough slog of a first hour with Long and Wes off the bench to add something later on. I think Craven Cottage will be the template. The lino's flag kept us in the game on a couple of occasions but it was still a good combative performance that should have yielded a win. Quinn missed a late sitter and Long could have scored twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-34813540.html

    Stephen Hunt bullish about Wednesday. Spirit of 2009.
    Good auld Hunty, always the optimist, puts in a great set piece cross too.

    As long as we keep Calamity Clark and the awful Keogh on the bench, and play Duffa, then we will look more solid at the back.

    Despite having a tactically poor management team, I kinda fancy us to get something from this game.

    And they said Gio, had no plan B!

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    to be honest 2 points or worse even 1 is not a good return when looking back on the group.

    But we can't really blame oneill for the individual errors, oneill builds up that trust with his players its what they strive on, the trust and belief he places in them, it usually works for him and worked against Germany, but they let him down, especially clark being given the chance. McCarthy so far has been the best confidence trickster I've seen in a long time.

    It's just disappointing that an ok performance against Belgium was excruciatingly put to the sword like that. BUt thats what you expect at that level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    to be honest 2 points or worse even 1 is not a good return when looking back on the group.

    But we can't really blame oneill for the individual errors, oneill builds up that trust with his players its what they strive on, the trust and belief he places in them, it usually works for him and worked against Germany, but they let him down, especially clark being given the chance. McCarthy so far has been the best confidence trickster I've seen in a long time.

    It's just disappointing that an ok performance against Belgium was excruciatingly put to the sword like that. BUt thats what you expect at that level.
    That’s why we’re targeting 4

    I’d rank ourselves as on a par with Sweden, and inferior to Italy and Belgium. So one point is the expected return. We might have got 3 from Sweden but we didn’t.

    I think Clark’s failings have been shown up. We all knew he can be a bit impetuous and rash, but at the same time his nuts & bolts defending has been good. The OG was quite similar to Iceland’s against Hungary, the difference being that Hungary were more certain to score i.e., 100%. Is the Icelandic bloke being hung out to dry?

    The Belgium game was gone by the time Clark – exposed by earlier errors – erred badly by taking neither ball nor man. I’d drop him but I wouldn’t crucify him.

    Roy Keane nailed it for me. Although there were individual errors the players lacked courage to seek the ball. I’d add that they lacked courage carrying the ball too. We weren’t always being pressed against Belgium. There were many occasions, and against Sweden too, where McCarthy or Whelan had the ball at his feet with space to attack and yet they did nothing positive with it. We expect that from Whelan who arguably has other merits (he defended very well in “ordinary” play in both games) but McCarthy just wasn’t at it in either game. Hendrick attacked the ball and space in each game. He did it well in game one, poorly in game two.

    I do think management failed somewhat too though. Walters is key to their plan A and Plan B. Without him there was no Plan C. The squad contained two or three selections I wouldn’t have agreed with. I’ll reserve judgment until after tomorrow (or later ) but it looks to me like we still have to move decisively away from Trap tactics. On occasion we are less Trap-like than Trap was but only when we face similar standard opposition, or worse.

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    These are the 3rd place standings after last night:

    Rank Country P W D L F A GD PTS GRP
    1 SLO 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4 B
    2 NIR 2 1 0 1 2 1 1 3 C
    3 ALB 3 1 0 2 1 3 -2 3 A
    4 POR 2 0 2 0 1 1 0 2 F
    5 CZE 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1 D
    6 SWE 2 0 1 1 1 2 -1 1 E
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    Something I have to repeatedly shout on a wet Sunday morning to my fellow amateur football team mates is to remind them that the BALL IS NOT A BOMB.

    Watching Ireland on Saturday afternoon that phrase kept running through my head. Unfortunately the majority of our players (particularly our defenders and central midfield) do not like receiving the ball and when they do it causes panic. The players do need to be braver and back themselves. Whelan and McCarthy need to go and get the ball off the centre backs and take us FORWARDS. This negative kick it back to the keeper everytime drives me ****ing nuts.

    I thought we played really well versus Sweden but for some reason we lost our bottle against Belgium and went back to cave man Trap football. BE BRAVE and BELIEVE.
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    Italy are making 9 changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    That’s why we’re targeting 4

    I’d rank ourselves as on a par with Sweden, and inferior to Italy and Belgium. So one point is the expected return. We might have got 3 from Sweden but we didn’t.

    I think Clark’s failings have been shown up. We all knew he can be a bit impetuous and rash, but at the same time his nuts & bolts defending has been good. The OG was quite similar to Iceland’s against Hungary, the difference being that Hungary were more certain to score i.e., 100%. Is the Icelandic bloke being hung out to dry?

    The Belgium game was gone by the time Clark – exposed by earlier errors – erred badly by taking neither ball nor man. I’d drop him but I wouldn’t crucify him.

    Roy Keane nailed it for me. Although there were individual errors the players lacked courage to seek the ball. I’d add that they lacked courage carrying the ball too. We weren’t always being pressed against Belgium. There were many occasions, and against Sweden too, where McCarthy or Whelan had the ball at his feet with space to attack and yet they did nothing positive with it. We expect that from Whelan who arguably has other merits (he defended very well in “ordinary” play in both games) but McCarthy just wasn’t at it in either game. Hendrick attacked the ball and space in each game. He did it well in game one, poorly in game two.

    I do think management failed somewhat too though. Walters is key to their plan A and Plan B. Without him there was no Plan C. The squad contained two or three selections I wouldn’t have agreed with. I’ll reserve judgment until after tomorrow (or later ) but it looks to me like we still have to move decisively away from Trap tactics. On occasion we are less Trap-like than Trap was but only when we face similar standard opposition, or worse.
    But Clark keeps on making error after error, that cost points and games.
    He's not a young lad anymore, yet he continues to make bad mistakes at club and international level.

    I said all along he would cost us games, you all disagreed, seems I was right.

    When he dived in on the half way line, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry it was that bad a decision.

    Had he of caught the player he'd of got a red.

    I'd give Duffa a run

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    What's your XI for tomorrow Doc?

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    It was frustrating 4 years ago when Trapattoni stuck with underperforming players. O'Neill has to drop players who are out of form.

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    Sounds like O'Shea is a goner. Hopefully Duffy gets a chance.

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    Hopefully the shock of Spain's loss will be a distraction for the Italian's! Italy get to take on Spain as a reward for winning our group!

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    That Swedish draw is just even more gut wrenching now after today's results.
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    Am I right in saying there hasn't been a shot on target against Italy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Am I right in saying there hasn't been a shot on target against Italy?
    No but that shouldn't stop us! Sweden drew with us 1-1 without having a shot on target!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Am I right in saying there hasn't been a shot on target against Italy?
    Take a shot from kick off to put that ghost to bed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    Take a shot from kick off to put that ghost to bed!
    You never know, it might even go in.
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    Euro 2016: Italy v Republic of Ireland on 'irreversibly damaged' Lille pitch
    The Republic of Ireland will play their crucial Euro 2016 group match against Italy on Wednesday on a pitch that Uefa says is "irreversibly damaged".The playing surface at Lille's Stade Pierre Mauroy cut up during France's draw against Switzerland on Sunday, with players losing their footing.
    Bad weather is being blamed, despite a retractable roof at the stadium, and the pitch will be replaced on Friday.
    Will the state of the pitch be to our advantage?

    "We saw the pitch didn't look that great but it's going to be the same for the Italians as it is for ourselves so that makes it a level playing field," said Ireland left-back Stephen Ward.
    "Myself and Wes Hoolahan have played in the League of Ireland so we're used to it."

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    Interesting metaphor Wardy. The bumpy pitch makes it a level playing field.

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    I feel like something bad is happening. Is there breaking news? Any leaks on the Italian team?

    Ireland's odds are drifting out this morning from 3.3 to 3.5 and 3.6 in places now in the last 30 mins.

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