Clark again!
Dreadful decision making!
Out of his depth!
Said it from day one....
Over to you Lads and Lassies....
Time for Keogh?
Clark again!
Dreadful decision making!
Out of his depth!
Said it from day one....
Over to you Lads and Lassies....
Just want to mend the goal difference a bit at this stage. Maybe that's even asking too much.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Am I right in thinking we've never won a finals match in white, and only lost once in green?
Can't remember what colours we wore in 2012, but fairly sure we lost in green for the first time then.
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Excuse me!Originally Posted by SkStu
Attack the post not the poster!
You come on here when your country is 3-0 down to misguidedly gloat and annoy everyone with your one track crap. You're a troll.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I don't gloat, I was just stating a fact.
Clark isn't good enough
Hindsight is 20-20, but all that hoofball and not retaining possession at the start of the match set the tone for a loss.
Tend to agree, there was a very negative tone to the start, time wasting over every stoppage in play. I'd be surprised to see Clark and McCarthy start the Italy game. Such a massive disappointment.
To answer my own post, we lost twice in green in 2012, and also against Holland in 1988, which I forgot.
Record in green - 13-4-6-3-11-13
Record in white - 8-0-2-6-3-12
Counting penalty shoot-outs as wins/losses, not draws.
We also missed the penalty v Spain in white (though did score a second one)
The only slight positive now is that a draw against Italy is useless so they have to just go out and play for the win from the off. Hopefully there's enough belief in that squad to bounce back.
Also, I've said it before, but I suspect we can enjoy this Euros, as it'll be our last finals appearance for a long time.
Ageing team, a poor team, nobody coming through, underage teams achieving little, no player development structure to bring players into the senior level...
Hard to know how we could have got anything out of the game really.
We could have done backs to the wall stuff for 90 minutes but we'd probably have conceded eventually. And as soon as we pressed a bit, they used the space and took advantage.
They're just better than us.
We have never lost in pink.
They are a better team, but what about that peno that wasn't? That was a turning point.
Italy are already through though aren't they? Would work in our favour...
Not a penalty, apparently...
And they went straight down the pitch and opened the scoring.
But I think the issues with Irish football go somewhat deeper than maybe being given a penalty* against, as osarusan says, a team who are just a lot better than us.
* - is high feet in the box an indirect free or a penalty? Can never remember anything about that rule; might have gone out in the 80s for all I know.
True. But it shows how thin the line between success and failure can be.. heads went down after that.
Not a great performance and the game management was the exact opposite of what I hoped. Should have shut up shop at 1-0 down a la Trappatoni - a 1-0 defeat would still have given us a good chance of progressing as a top 3Rd place team (if we could beat Italys reserves) but even a win against them now might not be enough due to goal difference.
I think O'Neil bungled the tactics, to conservative against the Swedes (a win there and we would be through) to open in the second half today.
Way too much of Trappatoni out there today. That was the worst thing, there was never any sense that Ireland really thought they could get anything out of the game, they just hoofed and fell back. No way that was going to get even a point. Worked for a half - Belgium didn't have a shot on goal until they scored - but that was all. Desperately disappointing afternoon.
Randolph, wouldn't fault him for any of the goals, was close to keeping the second out, never really tested otherwise.
Coleman, alright in the first, fell away in the second. Clark, very poor throughout, badly at fault for the third, probably shouldn't start next game. O'Shea, probably the best of the back four, still not saying much. Ward, did OK for a time, but like Coleman just couldn't make an impact going into the second.
Brady might have been better served staying at left back, no real impact. Hendrick with his worst game in an Ireland shirt (that yellow card, what the hell was that?). Whelan anonymous, back to bad habits. McCarthy started OK and got worse. Hoolahan with nowhere near his usual contribution. Long hopelessly isolated upfront, and clearly showing his frustration.
McClean, tried going forward, and was doing his job when he lost possession ahead of the third, but ultimately impotent. McGeady offered nothing. Keane, I think, brought on only to rest Long, so who really cares?
A few times in the first it would only have needed a better short pass and Ireland were in, but that's as dangerous as Ireland became. Even when Ireland controlled the game for a short time after the goal, it was like Belgium were allowing us the privilege, as opposed to the Irish actually winning it. They had us by the balls the entire second half. It's not quite the level of of "outclassed" as Spain in 2012, but not a million miles away either.
Honestly, didn't think it was a penalty against Long either. High feet for sure, but was there really much, if any, contact, enough to justify him going into the fetal position? Is high feet enough for the infringement to be called?
The "Greatest fans, etc, etc" not covering themselves in glory today, silent as a graveyard after the goals, while Belgium fans did the wave. Maybe it bothers me more after the week of mindless clickbait. Stuck in a pub surrounded by people wondering when the rugby was on the moment Lukaku got his first too.
At least the mission is clear against Italy, and maybe they might not be going for it 100%. But a very tall order to get the win with this team. I fear Stu is right.
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