What is the basis? The reporter says that the media and the fans think that.Originally Posted by Cowboy
I don't know...Im just saying what he said.
On the other hand , you can't believe reporters
so what is the basis for saying we underestimate Israel ?
What is the basis? The reporter says that the media and the fans think that.
I don't know...Im just saying what he said.
On the other hand , you can't believe reporters
so let me get this straight, the Israeli fans and this newspaper think we undersestimate Israel (in this article about our country as you said) but they have not talkled to a single Irish supporter or player ?
Just what kind of newspapers do you guys have there ?
As I've already said i dont undersestimate the Israeli team and i do not know anyone who does
If you dont underestimate Israel it dosn't mean that everony in your country dosn't.
The reporter did quote a fan that said that he will stay at home because you will win for sure.
The reporter did say that your coach dosn't underestimate Israel and the coach also said: "he need's the green-army with the team" .
I did not say it did , I merely said that I have not heard one person saying they did not think Israel was a threat.
How can one fans view (we dont know who he is so cannot judge the source) be representative of the whole football community here.
I really dont know how the journalist came to this view and i would question his motives. The fact that not many are travelling is no indication of whether we consider Isreal to be a threat or not.
I personally think that Israel are as big a threat to us than either France or Switzerland
Make no mistake, as neither France or Switzerland have managed to beat beat Israel and they are unbeaten in four games, the Irish team, their manager and the fans will have the utmost respect for Israel.
There is nobody thinking that Ireland are guaranteed 9 points from the next three games. Obviously, I hope that Ireland wins next month's game but if we come away with a draw I will be satisfied.
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
hi bonk, was shocked to read that, maybe the israeli media think we are like the english and think we are going to win all the time, and every gamenot as many fans will go to this game due to its clash with easter(family commitments) and cost and for some chickens, the security
i will be crapping myself watching this game, same level as switzerland and france. may the best team win
I presume the assumption by the paper is on the basis that so few fans are travelling to the game in comparison with Paris.This of course has nothing to do with the importance of the game which cannot be understated.It is as Kerrs Tribe said a matter of security and the fact that the irish sporting public are largely 'event junkies'.
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No no no no no.....hi bonk, was shocked to read that, maybe the israeli media think we are like the english and think we are going to win all the time, and every game
I can now try to convince you how much Israel is safe in this days and in the last 2 years...but i won't.
The thing i will do is : Ill open a new thread after the game , and ask :
1. Is Israel safe ? ( 99% will say YES for SURE ).
2. Did you have fun ? ( depend's on the match's result probably but im sure that besides the game the fans will have a very good time )
As for the game....
You shouldn't say : WOW Israel is so good , Im " buying " a draw and **** like that. You are a much better team then we are, so why are you are saying that you will take a draw?
On the other hand , you must understand the Israeli reporter.
This year is a big chance for us....and this is a very importent match if not THE most importent one. So the reporter is trying to people to angry at your country maybe ....i dont know what he was thinking about but i think you understand what im talking about.
By the way ( for the ones who are coming ) .... eat before and after the match in the mall ( the have fast food....etc ) because inside the stadium they don't really give you any good food.
P.S- I still can't believe why we ( Israel ) have such a bad stadium IMO, and we want to be a "modern country" . I was in Euro 2004 and In the Amsterdam Arena ( when Maccabi Tel Aviv was In the Champions league this year ) and im planing to go to Germany ( with or without my country ) ....so the stadium's in Europe are years of light far better then Ramat-Gan. ( sorry for bad English )
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If you don't know Turkey is part in Europe and par in Asia , so to tell them not to play in Europe is really not fair.No problem with normal Israelis,but they cant really compare themselves with Europe.....both Turkey & them should be playing in the Asian qualifiers,despite,er,not getting onwith their,er,neighbours!
About us...You are right we should and WE DID play in the asian qualifiers , but there is no-chance we could no there against teams like Iran etc...
When you talked to about Israeli's and you cant compare them with europe are you talking only about soccer or other things as well?
[SIZE=1]didnt like your post at all by the way..... i think its a little racist [/SIZE]
Yes , we have diffrent cultures but that dosn't mean we can't play in Europe.Well,the problem with Iran et al are well documented.That's down to respective governments.
As for Israel & Europe,talking about the stadia!Though there are cultural differences also......just basing purely on geographical criteria.As for my own feelings re.Israel.....very mixed.....but then we cant
You don't know this but the Asian team and esp. the Arab's didnt want to play anymore against us , and thats why we moved to Europe .
Did you know that in the Athens this summer an Iranian Judo ( i don't know how you say it in english so i hope its an international word , the sport ) didnt show up against someone from our team?
Wait...Is it wrong that we have diffrent cultures we can't play in Europe?
Don't like your messages at all.....they don't smell right ( mostly because you attacked Turkey without even thinking that they have some land in Europe. Wait if your not from France, Italy , Holland , Germany it means we can't play against you???? )
If you come to Israel , I would like to talk with you about this subjects.
the last time we beat decent opposition was away to scotland in 87. nearly 20 years ago. i think you'll find that the majoirty of people that post here are regarding the isreal match as extremely tricky.
If this is true then its reprehensible behaviour.
Im just guessing what he was thinking about at that time.
Lets say that the artical was saying that you think that Israel will be an easy opponent for you ....Im not responsible to his action's.
Davros-I have only one thing to tell you about "wannbe" **** : we have no choice , we have to play in Europe.
Other then that , your posts are disgusting me. and ill stop comment your posts.
P.S- I still can't believe why we ( Israel ) have such a bad stadium IMO, and we want to be a "modern country" . I was in Euro 2004 and In the Amsterdam Arena ( when Maccabi Tel Aviv was In the Champions league this year ) and im planing to go to Germany ( with or without my country ) ....so the stadium's in Europe are years of light far better then Ramat-Gan. ( sorry for bad English )[/QUOTE]
You'll see our stadium Lansdowne Road if you come to Ireland in June. Most Irish fans are embarrassed by the stadium we currently play in. 22,000 permanent seats in two stands and 14,000 temporary seats built on two terraces behind the goal. Plans are currently in progress to demolish and rebuild as a 50,000 all seated.
As for Israel away being an easy game, I don't think so and I think most fans would disagree. If we get three points we will be doing very well.
hi bonk, u replied to my post earlier,i implied that some people in ireland will be concerned about the security, those who are a wee bit ignorant, i personally would go if i could afford it, i would not worry about the security, maybe a few yrs ago but not now. i understand what u say, it is a similar thing in northern ireland, people outside(who have never been
Imo they are defently not ignorent , they just know what the media "feeds" them, so i understand the people that are scared because they remember what they saw in the news two years ago in the media. But this is not the situation now.hi bonk, u replied to my post earlier,i implied that some people in ireland will be concerned about the security, those who are a wee bit ignorant, i personally would go if i could afford it, i would not worry about the security, maybe a few yrs ago but not now. i understand what u say, it is a similar thing in northern ireland, people outside(who have never been
When some of your friend's will come back they will tell you that what they saw in TV 2 years ago is not even similar to real life ( same thing goes to Belfest ) .
I replyed like that because you said that some people won't go because they are "chickens" , and i think you understand why i replyed the why i did
I REALLY hope that we will be in the same group before 2008 EURO and then, much more of you will come after you will hear its safe and fun here.
Bonk, dont let Davros get you annoyed. He usually talks rubbish!
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
not on this occasionHe usually talks rubbish!
for Bonk
When was the last time there was a violent attack in Tel-aviv?
I'm just curious
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