QuoteHaha, if that's how you want to read it, fair enough!Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Translation - "Ignoring everything everyone else is saying"...
Haha, if that's how you want to read it, fair enough!
I'm not aware of any official word from UEFA yet on the update to the access list.
Speculation is that more teams will start off in CLQ1, 4 teams will come through the champions route and 2 teams from the league route.
A combination of more teams starting in CLQ1 and less teams entering the EL from CLQ3 and the CL playoff round will naturally create space in ELQ2 and ELQ3 for league champions to be included.
Unfortunately as many point out, UEFA will probably be most unlikely to utilise space freed up in favour of lower ranking teams.
MAD:
266 Dundalk 0.200 0.050 0.900 1.140 2.425 4.715
267 Rangers FC 2.050 0.860 0.650 0.800 0.600 4.960
267 Aalesunds FK 1.980 0.520 0.440 1.450 0.275 4.665
268 Hibernian 0.860 1.150 0.800 0.600 1.225 4.635
268 Dundee United 1.860 0.650 0.800 0.600 0.725 4.635
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Don't let anyone ever tell you the Scottish Premiership is that much better than the LOI Premier. Remember that those Scottish sides have a far higher country coefficient to start them off too.
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surprised to see Rovers only 10 odd places behind at 4.42 in position 279.......the points from the good old days are still helping : )
Thank God UEFA are going to take a ten year view from next season
Could'nt agree more Dundalk would have beaten Celtic
Do you know what would fix all the ills of European football in a heartbeat? A pyramid structure.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
The Europa League winner now qualifies for the Champions League!
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
I don't think the fact that the best team our league has produced in decades is ranked higher than a club just making its way back through the divisions after reformation and another two in the second tier really proves that much.
Scotland has fully professional status, massive crowds compared to ours, night and day better infrastructure, not to mention the five or so Scottish clubs well ahead of Dundalk in the rankings. If we could get remotely close to the state of the Scottish domestic game I would be delighted.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
... and you think Stephen Kenny is moaning about fixture congestion now....The Europa League winner now qualifies for the Champions League!
I'd fancy Cork City and Dundalk to beat any Scottish team not named Celtic in a competitive fixture, and we'd both give Celtic a run for their money.
There does seem to be something seriously wrong with Scottish football in fairness. Some of the smaller SPL sides have nice set ups, but the bigger sides seem to waste their money on crap imports. I don't know why the bigger clubs are getting less return on the extra money.
Wouldn't read much into the stats above as Dundalk have more European campaigns than the teams around them
If the League of Ireland had the resources of Scottish football..
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
The system as it is (Irish champions only needing to get through CLQ2 in order to get two bites at the cherry of EL Group Stage) for another year anyway gives a fairly decent chance at making the EL group stage, I'm disappointed not more clubs have succeeded since Rovers did it. I've been hoping that Cork pop Dundalk to the title this year to give them a shot at securing the same resources that Dundalk now have (or even half of same given that their ground is already sufficient).
Having two clubs with those kind of resources, along with recent Rovers investment, redevelopment of Dalymount, Markets Field and positive signs for football in our third city, centre of excellence in Cork, National under 19, 17 and 15 leagues, and Euro 2016 improving the FAI's financial position (slightly) would make for what should be seen as a very slight upward trajectory for football in this country. Yes, it's not enough and the public largely still don't give a **** but there are enough projects on the cards to make me fairly optimistic about the future.
Side question, IF Cork manage to win the league, is there any hope of a seeding in the CLQ2 - perhaps if Dundalk force up the national coefficient in the interim?
"If you don't work harder I'll pull you off at halftime,"
“Crikey, at Manchester City all we get is an orange and a cup of tea,"
None. Dundalk need to get at least another win to be seeded next year. Possibly a win and a draw.
Cork have no chance, it'll be difficult for Dundalk
We would need Dundalk to win the Europa League and even then we probably still wouldn't be seeded!
In relative terms if Cork (who should have been in a stronger position for their home EL with Genk) had progressed to EL PO and then groups, due to not needing an entirely new ground would have been in similar or better off financially in being able to invest the money in an academy, training ground, squad etc than Dundalk arguably. Dundalk have the money from CL already spent playing catch-up on infrastructure. So I agree with the getting half of the type of money Dundalk got for Cork but not pipping to the TitleObviously this will suit me as a Dundalk fan but I would like to see if the progress made this year can be can be sustained or even built on. Especially if Dundalk achieve a win to get the 4th point that might offer seeding in the qualifying round entered. But another pop at the CL before restructuring happens (is it next season or season after) i'd want to see the club with the best chance of doing something in the CL - I obviously feel that is Dundalk assuming we are not weakened significantly with the loss of players to transfers ETC. There is plenty to be more positive about these days (did licensing work is some weird ways) and it is all the more pleasing or indeed impressive that it was done without and despite the FAI! I cant see Cork being seeded in CL Q2 unless Dundalk pull off a series of wins in to the last 32 and well beyond.
Since the champions route came in in 2009, LoI champions have gotten through CLQ2 in 2 out of 8 years.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
A disappointing return as I alluded to above. Is your point that the current system doesn't offer a good chance of Europa League Group Stage qualification? We've had two teams achieve it in the last 5 years.
If Dundalk came second this year, does anyone know what kind of situation they'd be looking at in the Europa League? What round, seeding etc. I'd happily research it myself but I'm not really sure where to start! Trying to get all my info together before deciding who exactly I think want to win the league.
"If you don't work harder I'll pull you off at halftime,"
“Crikey, at Manchester City all we get is an orange and a cup of tea,"
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