League of Ireland in Europe 2016

**nigel-harps1954** · 21/07/2016, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by nr637

Expecting close to 5,000 at the Cross tonite, don't forget €20 for adults is expensive enough when you consider that it is only a Europe competition which can be difficult at times to attract fans who prefer the domestic league campaign.

St. Pats on the other hand can only expect around 2,500 max as unlike Turners Cross is not an all seated ground, Richmond has a Main Stand seating and open seating behind one goal.

Would they ever consider installing temporary bucket seats if they progressed to the next round?

Eh? What? Only a Europe competition?

**White Horse** · 21/07/2016, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I know there's a jump to full time (as I presume Benson is now), but given he was controlling midfield in European matches last year, did he really need four months to be ready to do it again this year?

Is it not more likely than Kenny just has too much choice in midfield?

He was on an intense training programme that left him sluggish in games. It is only in the last month that he has looked sharp and quick.

I would have started him in both matches as I think he is one of the best players in the league.

I hope he starts against Bate. His technical ability is outstanding and he now has the physical strength to use it to its fullest extent.

**Dodge** · 21/07/2016, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Dodge - I'm sure I could look this up, but bit trickier on mobile - but what's the general score needed to be seeded?

In CL? Lowest seeds for last 5 years
2016 - 5.400
2015 - 5.575
2014 - 7.435
2013 - 5.333
2012 - 4.733

**Ezeikial** · 21/07/2016, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Dundalk have literally won a single tie, they will get to the EL Playoff because its designed to get Champions League teams there, same as Rovers. Its incredibly difficult to do so from the first round of the Europa League, especially as an unseeded side.

So getting to the EL group stages is easier for the team that wins the league? Some would suggest that it is "incredibly difficult" to get that benefit in the first place.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 21/07/2016, 2:22 PM

Will tickets be on sale at Inchicore tonight?

**El-Pietro** · 21/07/2016, 2:23 PM

I'd say its tougher to get to the group stage from the EL than it is to win the league. We've all won the league at some point!

**Ezeikial** · 21/07/2016, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

I'd say its tougher to get to the group stage from the EL than it is to win the league.

Agreed, but that was hardly your original contention!

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 2:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

In CL? Lowest seeds for last 5 years
2016 - 5.400
2015 - 5.575
2014 - 7.435
2013 - 5.333
2012 - 4.733

Or EL as well - though others are pinning that around the 4.000 mark.

So a fair bit to go for clubs to be regularly seeded - looks like only the regulars can hope for it soon, which I guess is a factor of having such a competitive league.

**El-Pietro** · 21/07/2016, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Agreed, but that was hardly your original contention!

Kinda was.... Its much easier to reach the EL playoff round/Group stages as a CL team then it is as a EL team. You introduced the difficulty to win the league aspect.

**El-Pietro** · 21/07/2016, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Or EL as well - though others are pinning that around the 4.000 mark.

So a fair bit to go for clubs to be regularly seeded - looks like only the regulars can hope for it soon, which I guess is a factor of having such a competitive league.

You'd need to play in the CL once or twice (1 point for playing in the second round), or get to the third round of the EL (1 point) a couple of times to boost your total. For us we realistically need to reach he group stages (2 points) and get a draw (1 point) there to have a chance to be seeded next year.

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 5:17 PM

Climville down to ten men after ten minutes in Cyprus. They've really thrown that tie away, from 2-0 up after an hour at home, to losing at home, and now this.

Cillian Sheridan and Adam Rooney on the mark today.

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 5:49 PM

And Climville concede on the stroke of half time to add to it all

RoPS - who beat Rovers - down to 9 men and 3-0 down in Zagreb, who've also missed a penalty.

**legendz** · 21/07/2016, 5:52 PM

I think it's harsh that league champions have been knocked out this week. In my own humble opinion all champions should drop into the next EL round e.g. FH should be in ELQ3. It would reward champions with at least two rounds of European action.

I have no doubt that it's tough to get by EL Q1, Q2 and Q3. Any LoI that can navigate a path through to the EL playoffs will be fully deserving of respect. Getting to ELQ3 is good going but I wouldn't classify it as great.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 21/07/2016, 6:14 PM

Best of luck to Pats & Cork. Especially Cork.

**ger121** · 21/07/2016, 6:20 PM

I see Jelgava from Latvia knocked out Slovan Bratislava. Widens the gap to Latvia in the Co-efficient rankings. Excellent win mind you!

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 21/07/2016, 6:39 PM

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

McMillan's second goal was an excellent team goal.

Reminds me very much of a famous Ireland goal scored half a dozen years ago.

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 6:40 PM

And Nomme Kalju got a 90th minute equaliser against Maccabi Haifa, who they then went on to beat on penalties, so Estonia are back ahead of us - albeit that Cork and Pat's haven't started yet

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 6:42 PM

Macedonian side winning too actually, which bumps us down.

Europa of Gibraltar again holding AIK to 1-0; ten minutes to go there.

**pineapple stu** · 21/07/2016, 6:48 PM

And the Montenegro side go ahead within seconds, so they're keeping up with us if we get two draws.

Bloody tight around where we are, even if the club coefficient is way more important