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    Could be another 5-0 defeat in Europe for Pats tonight.
    Here on a technicality.

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    That game reminded me a bit of the Derry 1-1 game in Oriel early season, tentative looking but obviously a better team just not playing well, waiting for things to 'click'. That early season feeling of being a good side but just not putting it together for 90 minutes. Chances missed and then punished by a clanger, caused by a few players - miss-kick, players getting in each others way, some of the uncertainty evident v Longford that was hoped to be a one off. I think FH themselves gave us a plenty of respect with spoiling tactics and time wasting from early on, for a team said to be comfortable on the ball or "elegant". If we had been in top form I believe this tie would be just about done. Their defense looked like they had a clanger in them also, especially their No. 20. If they dont have that much more in them for their home leg, and we play anything near last years away leg performance we we should be going through. Their dilemma on whether to sit deep and hit on the break defending the away goal could actually suit us as especially if they are anyway as cagey we were. It's important but there was almost a total obsession on not conceding the away goal rather than just going out and treating the game as much like a domestic game as possible. The crowd was quite flat too with the edginess all over the ground. I may well rue saying this after the away leg but on what was on offer last night from FH, Cork are a better side too.

    I realised last night why I prefer standing areas at games with the ability to move to another spot - I had the really irritating experience of being sat just in front of a individual who must have been randomly picking things to say out of the 'things to shout at football matches for dummies' reference book (and with that faux english like twang) " bury ih (sic)" about a 1000 times even when in our own half, "ah get up for it" when the ball was on the deck, "get rid of it" practically every single time a Dundalk player was on the ball, "ah let him know you're there over and over....then there was the shout for handball at a throw in...for Dundalk, no exaggeration!! He didnt seem to be that beered up or anything, just genuinely not a chap that must go to too many games or even watch a match on TV one thing for sure is that he was like a human tannoy and directly in to my earhole. One guy asked him to pipe down probably out of sympathy. As for people standing in seated areas, if you are at the rear of the seating area, or where everyone stands like in the shed ok, but when in the front few rows to keep standing and stay standing with repeated requests by people behind to sit down or move is just ignorant. I got my ticket quite late so was in among the few stragglers like myself and then a lot of people who wouldn't be in Oriel that often i'd say but I wont be slow aagain in getting my ticket. I bought a stand season ticket this year for the first time rather than the ground so maybe I'm just getting to that age.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Cheers the 1.2 mil I was unsure of, but is that to lose in CL 3rd round and then lose in Europa league play-off round? What if the progression to the final round of the CL, how much is that worth? Its probably better not to question these things at this stage..

    Ya I am aware of the stages, and losers in the 3rd I think go into the last round, "A total of 44 teams are expected to play in the play-off round: the 29 winners of the third qualifying round, and the 15 losers of the 2016–17 UEFA Champions League third qualifying round."

    But Tony didn't put it like that, or maybe I picked him up wrong. I think he meant Europa Group stages but said it like the CL Group stages.

    • First Qualifying Round: €200,000
    • Second Qualifying Round: €300,000
    • Third Qualifying Round: €400,000
    • Play-offs Eliminated: €3,000,000
    • Play-offs Winners: €2,000,000
    • Base fee for group stage: €12,000,000
    • Group match victory: €1,500,000
    • Group match draw: €500,000
    • Round of 16: €5,500,000
    • Quarter-finals: €6,000,000
    • Semi-finals: €7,000,000
    • Losing finalist: €10,500,000
    • Winning the Final: €15,000,000

    Going out in Q3 and dropping to EL then

    • Play-off round elimination: €230,000
    • Base fee for group stage: €2,400,000
    • Group match victory: €360,000
    • Group match draw: €120,000
    • Group winners: €500,000
    • Group runners-up: €250,000
    • Round of 32: €500,000
    • Round of 16: €750,000
    • Quarter-finals: €1,000,000
    • Semi-finals: €1,500,000
    • Losing finalist: €3,500,000
    • Winners: €6,500,000


    Looking at the EL figures there again and with the prize money on offer you can see why English clubs in particular treat it like the League Cup and are only bothered at last 4 or 8 point. 3.5million fr an EPL club that goes out at round of 32 is small change considering the transfer fees paid with wages to get in to top 5. In particular for a club with the revenue than can be generated by a Manchester United - might just cover the cleaners bill at Old Trafford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    Could be another 5-0 defeat in Europe for Pats tonight.
    Would worry about that myself. Decent standard over there. We lost 5-1 away to Shakhtyor Soligorsk couple of years ago, was very comfortable for them.

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    Any joy with a stream for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Any joy with a stream for this?
    Good stream here

    http://videostream.dn.ua/videopage/v...%96f%E2%84%96f

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    Not sure I've ever seen someone get so much space on the edge of the box before.

    Though it does at least confirm that the stream is about ten seconds behind futbol24's updates - which is handy for knowing when to flick over at least.

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    Ahhh ... poor marking for the first. 1:0 now

    Minsk are no world beaters
    "Now jump up there and stuff that son of a bitch in the basket, chief"

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    That's a shame for Pats - they'd looked very comfortable until then. Minsk look pretty ordinary though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ybig View Post
    Not working for me unfortunately.

    Found one that works thanks.
    You've got no fans.

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    There isn't a massive gulf in quality here.

    Really is key for Pats to get an away goal.
    You've got no fans.

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    What time did this start? 4.30?

    An away draw would be a great result.

    Are they in pre-season? Because they've reached the group stages twice before I think, so you'd expect a gulf in class, hopefully its not one Pats rue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    What time did this start? 4.30?

    An away draw would be a great result.

    Are they in pre-season? Because they've reached the group stages twice before I think, so you'd expect a gulf in class, hopefully its not one Pats rue.
    Nope Minsk are mid season.

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    That commentator never stops talking!
    You've got no fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    Not working for me unfortunately.

    Found one that works thanks.
    You've to click on "Dinamo v Pat's" on the right to start it.

    Moot if you've found a working one anyway.

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    What a strike. 1-1
    You've got no fans.

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    Can you explain a bit more for those of us in work and unable to watch/listen
    I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
    And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
    I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
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    Well, 'e hit the ball, and it flew into the back of the net.

    1-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    That commentator never stops talking!
    exactly

    was just thinking it would be funny if it was another 1-1 draw, first three games on uefa site were score draws, and then they score, good goal

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    Almost an exact replica of Minsk's finish, only much better as he was actually being closed down.

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