League of Ireland in Europe 2016

**Acornvilla** · 30/08/2016, 1:42 PM

This podcast might be interest to some of you, 1st 15 mins covers Dundalk in Europe, Pats/Derrys statements vs the FAI, and a bit on JD in general. http://goo.gl/co2Ecf

**vinnie** · 30/08/2016, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by Trainee

I read on Facebook that Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign are planning a protest at the Maccabi Tel Aviv game. They are hopping to get people to waive Palestine flags inside & outside the ground which means Dundalk could be hit with a massive fine.

I overheard a supporter of a team other than Dundalk saying (in jest I hope) that they were buying a Dundalk jersey, going to the match, waving a Palastine flag in one hand with a Flare in the other, then invading the pitch.

**seand** · 30/08/2016, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by vinnie

I overheard a supporter of a team other than Dundalk saying (in jest I hope) that they were buying a Dundalk jersey, going to the match, waving a Palastine flag in one hand with a Flare in the other, then invading the pitch.

Ah good ol' Maxi, he never lost it!

**ToberonaTornado** · 30/08/2016, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by seand

Ah good ol' Maxi, he never lost it!

TBH with you it's not Maxi i'd be worried about on this one!There is a hardcore group connected to a set of Celtic supporters that i'd be more wary of atm.They seem intent on doing something at the Tel Aviv gme in Tallaght.

**ToberonaTornado** · 30/08/2016, 10:57 PM

A hardcore group who have never attended a LOI match in their lives

**CuanaD** · 07/09/2016, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado

A hardcore group who have never attended a LOI match in their lives

'Hardcore' is the stuff they have between their ears

**holidaysong** · 07/09/2016, 6:45 PM

Irish clubs will now enter the UCL qualifying at QR1 rather than QR2 according to a post on Bert's website - so 4 rounds to get to the group stages rather than 3. The national champions qualification route will now only have 4 rather than 5 qualifications spots. They just make it harder and harder...

UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2018/21 – ACCESS LIST FOR QUALIFICATION ROUNDS

CHAMPIONS PATH:

Preliminary Rounds (PR): 4 starters (52-55), two PR, for 1 place in CQ1
Starters 2018/19, at the moment: 52. Gibraltar, 53. Andorra, 54. San Marino, 55. Kosovo.

CQ1: 33 starters (18-51, without Liechtenstein) + 1 winner from PR = 34 teams
Starters 2018/19, at the moment: 18. Denmark, 19. Belarus, 20. Sweden, 21. Poland, 22. Norway, 23. Scotland, 24. Israel, 25. Azerbaidjan, 26. Cyprus, 27. Serbia, 28. Bulgaria, 29. Kazakhstan, 30. Slovenia, 31.Slovakia, 33. Hungary, 34. Moldova, 35..Iceland, 36. Finland, 37. Albania, 38. Bosnia, 39. Georgia, 40. Latvija, 41. Ireland, 42. Macedonia, 43. Estonia, 44. Montenegro, 45. Armenia, 46. Luxembourg, 47. Nothern Ireland, 48. Lithuania, 49. Malta, 50. Wales, 51. Faroe Islands

CQ2: 3 starters (15-17) + 17 winners from CQ1 = 20 teams
Starters 2018/19, at the moment: 15. Netherlands, 16. Romania, 17. Austria.

CQ3: 2 starters (13-14) + 10 winners from CQ2 = 12 teams
Starters 2018/19, at the moment: 13. Croatia, 14. Greece.

CQ4 (play off): 2 starters (11-12) + 6 winners from CQ3 = 8 teams
Starters 2018/19, at the moment: 11. Czech Republik, 12. Switzerland.

**Yossarian** · 07/09/2016, 7:19 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

Irish clubs will now enter the UCL qualifying at QR1 rather than QR2 according to a post on Bert's website - so 4 rounds to get to the group stages rather than 3. The national champions qualification route will now only have 4 rather than 5 qualifications spots. They just make it harder and harder...

With the bigger leagues getting more automatic spots this was always going to happen. It is disappointing for all of the smaller leagues around Europe as the Champions League becomes more of a closed shop. It really adds to the disappointment of not getting past Legia this season as that may well have been the last real chance of an Irish team getting to the CL groups, bar a decent draw for this seasons champions in next year's CL.

**El-Pietro** · 07/09/2016, 7:47 PM

Coefficient to be calculated over 10 seasons instead of 5 based on a follow up post on that thread. Great news for Shamrock Rovers, not so much for anyone else. Maybe Pats and Sligo a bit?

**White Horse** · 07/09/2016, 8:22 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Coefficient to be calculated over 10 seasons instead of 5 based on a follow up post on that thread. Great news for Shamrock Rovers, not so much for anyone else. Maybe Pats and Sligo a bit?

Won't be of any concern to Pats.

**El-Pietro** · 07/09/2016, 8:35 PM

In 2018? This won't apply next season. Pats will be back in Europe in a season or two.

**placid casual** · 07/09/2016, 8:49 PM

typical Rovers!
UEFA's so called model club...

**sbgawa** · 07/09/2016, 9:03 PM

Sound move by UEFA Imo.

**swinfordfc** · 08/09/2016, 2:02 PM

Lads,

Ireland co-efficient at the moment is 5.825 and we are in 41st placed. My questions is does anyone know for sure what co-efficient points would be added to this 5.825 by Dundalk if they get a draw in the Europa League or a win? I know it was 0.25 for a win and 0.125 for a draw up to this point (for any of our sides) but does it increase once you get into the group stages? Thanks.

**holidaysong** · 08/09/2016, 5:46 PM

It would be 0.5 for a win and 0.25 for a draw towards the national coefficient in the EL group stages.

**holidaysong** · 08/09/2016, 7:21 PM

Please see below update from Bert on that same thread. In fairness this would be a welcome addition. Those who drop out from UCL QR1 would get a second bite at the cherry in a 'Champion's Path' for Europa league qualification:

For UEL the access list has only entries for the group stage. The other details are left to the Club Competitions Committee. Except for one major point. Clearly indicated is a Champions Path and a League Path as two separate routes for UEL qualifying. The League Path has the usual 4 qualifying rounds, and the Champions Path has 3 qualifying rounds (Q2, Q3, and PO). This must imply that all champions who fail to qualify for the UCL get another chance in the UEL qualification.

**swinfordfc** · 08/09/2016, 9:35 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

It would be 0.5 for a win and 0.25 for a draw towards the national coefficient in the EL group stages.

Ok so its 2 point for a win (but divide by 4 as we had 4 teams taking part in europe) hence its 0.5! Thanks

**Straightstory** · 09/09/2016, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by Yossarian

With the bigger leagues getting more automatic spots this was always going to happen. It is disappointing for all of the smaller leagues around Europe as the Champions League becomes more of a closed shop. It really adds to the disappointment of not getting past Legia this season as that may well have been the last real chance of an Irish team getting to the CL groups, bar a decent draw for this seasons champions in next year's CL.

Yes - we may never get as close again. On the plus side, there won't be any clubs from the major leagues in the final qualifying rounds.
But it's outrageous how a handful of clubs essentially rule football and bully and threaten UEFA, who always cave in to their demands. It's grotesquely unfair and wrong in every way.

**El-Pietro** · 09/09/2016, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Straightstory

Yes - we may never get as close again. On the plus side, there won't be any clubs from the major leagues in the final qualifying rounds.
But it's outrageous how a handful of clubs essentially rule football and bully and threaten UEFA, who always cave in to their demands. It's grotesquely unfair and wrong in every way.

There weren't any big clubs from the major leagues in any of the qualifying rounds. They have squeezed some automatic qualifiers from the mid ranked leagues into the playoffs though.

**nigel-harps1954** · 09/09/2016, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by Straightstory

Yes - we may never get as close again. On the plus side, there won't be any clubs from the major leagues in the final qualifying rounds.
But it's outrageous how a handful of clubs essentially rule football and bully and threaten UEFA, who always cave in to their demands. It's grotesquely unfair and wrong in every way.

These clubs are richer than UEFA though. They have them bent over backwards.