How much money do players earn playing for Ireland?

**livehead1** · 08/01/2005, 12:15 AM

ye but for a cause like this they can publicise all they want no1 gives a F8ck, jst get the $$ off them!!!!!

**ramondo** · 08/01/2005, 11:35 AM

Maybe getting off topic but have to agree with Magoo about the whole charity bandwagon:

Hey let's have a charity pool match and donate the proceeds to tsunami victims

Hey let's have a concert and donate to tsunami victims

Hey let's give two days' wages to tsunami victims

Well, if it makes you feel better about yourself go ahead. Compared to the thousands of millions being donated by governments around the world (effectively coming from taxpayers' pockets) the extra few quid from the man on the street is peanuts. If you cared that much you'd spend your money on a plane ticket, get out there and help out.

Of course it's a good cause, but I'd be ****ed off if I was a player and was expected to donate a match fee to a cause someone had decided on my behalf. I'd like to make that decision myself - and not have to justify or defend my actions either way.

**eirebhoy** · 08/01/2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by ramondo

Compared to the thousands of millions being donated by governments around the world (effectively coming from taxpayers' pockets) the extra few quid from the man on the street is peanuts.

What a stupid thing to say. There has probably been more money given to Asia from the general public in this world than there has by world government's. If everyone thought like you none of that money would be there.

edit: Just reading over your post again I can't believe anyone would say some of things you have TBH. Your last point is justified you could have opened your post a bit better to get your point across.

**fosterdollar** · 10/01/2005, 9:24 AM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

...and furthermore, I'd completely forgotten what a self-obsessed nation of selfish little $hits we have become in modern Ireland.

What exactly are you looking for here? For everyone to hand in recepits of what the donated to the Tsunami fund? Or what they donated to charity in general. Get off your moral high horse will ya. The points raised were not anti-charity or selfish. What they were was anti-bandwagon hypocrisy. There's no harm in it being pointed out you know. If it takes a massive disaster like what happened in Asia to get you or anyone else off their asses and start thinking about making charitable donations, then mayb it these people who should be worried about becoming selfish little sh*ts.

**eirebhoy** · 10/01/2005, 9:35 AM

Again, I think its foolish of anyone not to donate solely because they are "anti-bandwagon". Nothing close to this has happened in my life time. This has the potential to kill 100 times more than the 9/11 disaster, the one which we actually got a day of work to grieve. If it takes something like this for people to start given to charity regularly then fair enough.

**ramondo** · 15/01/2005, 6:30 AM

Yep, my bit about personal donations versus government ones was a stupid thing to say, I'll admit that.

However - and I realise it is off topic - I just want to point out what I was getting at:

The numbers being quoted for money raised for tsunami relief and aid are huge but I'm just not impressed. Is it just me or have we, in our vastly improved economies, lost sense of the value of money? It's just too easy to throw some notes into a donation or send it electronically and kid ourselves we're doing our bit. When I was a kid the Trocaire box on the dinner table at Lent could never had held more than two to three quid - but it seems to me it had a lot more value than anything I could donate today.

Hey, that's just me. Before I shut up I'll say I've made a small donation and will probably make a larger one soon. What I won't be doing, as in the case of last Saturday outside the Opera House in Sydney, is make a song and dance about it.

**Metrostars** · 18/01/2005, 2:08 PM

To give ye lads an update on this....all hell has broken lose. The USSF (Like FAI) had proposed an arbitrator but the players union didnt like it as it was mainly on USSF's terms. Then the union proposed a "mediator", the USSF says fine, as long as you promise not to strike during the remainder of the WC qualifying. The union says they'll promise not to strike but only if USSF starts paying them the 38% increase the union has already said wasnt enough. USSF says, f-off.
So then Bruce Arena the manager started calling uncapped players in MLS and lower European leagues but they say no as they don't want to be scabs. Now he is calling in players from the USL leagues (second and third division). The game is on February 9 against T&T and the USA is f-ed if they send a crap team down there. Forfeitting is not an option as if they do they'll be kicked out of the World Cup for a few years.
But I believe, somehow they'll sort it out by the end of January. They can't be that stupid/greedy? Or maybe they can.