Shels in Europe vs Cork City in Europe

[A face]

Because no Bohs fan denies it was a horrible result.

Where did Kenny end up after it ?? tells its own story !!

[Longfordian]

Thank you..not as bad as it was made out to be is exactly my point. I never said it wasn't bad..damn it I've replied again

[conboy]

Wheres the big gob Partizan? Did the reference books slide away form your hands? Fair play to Longford for last season domestically but the Vaduz thing did'nt do any of us any good. Still one of the hardest working football clubs in Ireland and a big respect to ye for it.

[mypost]

I really dont want to start this again but Vaduz were a fully full time outfit with players from 11 different countries, a budget of €2.5m, without question a better side than Shamrock Rovers.

Looks like you have been dragged into it again...

For every Rovers, Shels, and Cork result in Europe, there's always a Longford. Their disaster in Europe this season was one of the worst ever (and there have been many) results of a NL team in European history. Probably down there with '99 NL Champions Pats' 10-0 mauling by the famous, glamourous, European giants, that are Zimbru Chisinau of Moldova!!!

Not that long ago, you played Litex Lovech in Europe. You never played in Europe before, but you held them for a long time, before 2 late goals in Bulgaria meant that they won 3-1 overall. If you could cope with a Bulgarian team, then you should have comfortably dealt with Vaduz, whether they had international players or not.

Vaduz better than Rovers? Who's won more European games?? Why?

Vaduz are in Europe every season, yet their record is filled with lost, lost, lost.... then Longford. So what if they have 6 internationals, they can't be great if they're playing in the Swiss second division, can they??? On the other hand, you're cup winners playing in the Premier Division of your own country, in season, match fit, dream draw, and you still can't them. Did Vaduz play like European greats, or did Longford make them look good? I suspect the latter. If Vaduz are so good, how come everybody else beats them in Europe?

[The Sheliban]

I'm very wary of slagging anybody off in Europe. With the set-up in the Eircom League, its a wonder anybody wins a game.
It seems to be a common thing for people to judge European sides by the standard of their international team, which isn't necessarily so. Derry got walloped by Cypriots, who, in actuality, were quite a technically decent side. Icelanders regularly win European games, yet we dismiss them all too easily.
A lot of European football is down to experience, which is why some of these teams from smaller nations can sometimes pull off the odd shock - they're in Europe every year.

[eoinh]

The best way of deciding is by looking at their previous record and Vaduz have never done anything in Europe.

In reality only shels' loss to Hibernians was worse. Having seen them on TV they were a truely awful side. If you are lucky enough to get a good draw you have to take advantage of it.

[Troy.McClure]

No, Pats 10 loss to the refugees was the worst ever. Id still be slagging them if we didnt take their manager!

[mypost]

It seems to be a common thing for people to judge European sides by the standard of their international team, which isn't necessarily so.

No, people judge teams from other countries based on what they know, or in most cases, don't know about the opposition. The Brits do it all the time. If they have one of their teams in Europe, up against someone who they don't know much about, then they think their team will automatically win. Often that doesn't happen. Also, if teams from Iceland, and Cyprus can compete in Europe, and we can't, it's shame on us.

I would excuse Shels' result against Hibernians, as the winning goal was scored in the last minute. Yes, Shels should have won, but last minute goals against the run of play do happen from time to time.