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    Just watched this game and Andy Reid was out of this world. He was by far the best player on the pitch. Capello was there watching and on this display must have hoped that Reid was English. Maybe he could give his mate Trap a call because as usual he was probably sitting in his villa somewhere in Italy. His passing, his vision, his ball retention and overall play was second to none. He ran the show out there.

    He is without doubt the outstanding Irish player at the moment. He has being continually consistent. Its madness that he won’t be in the squad for us this day next week against the French.

    I just hope that the Trap (can never do any wrong brigade) watch Match of the day to night. Maybe they will change their opinion but I highly doubt it somehow.

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    didnt see the game today but saw the highlights (incl. his volley from way out) but ive seen Sunderland lots over the last few months and it sounds like business as usual for Andy.

    Cannot understand how some posters just refuse to question his ommission? We have a chance against France - i truly believe that the chance would be greater with Reid in the team or at least coming off the bench in the second half. It disappoints me that so may posters will wilfully stand by and not dare to question ANY Trappatoni decision.
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    Again with Andy Reid?

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    Sunderland lost 2-0 right? There is no point one player playing world class football if your team then loses, probably because of defensive weakness in midfield and at the back.

    Give me two defensive midfielders who do nothing other than defend all night and yet the team wins than an attacking midfielder who ends up on the losing team.

    Reid does not fit into the current Irish management's plans and probably for the reasons shown today. They guy can attack but Sunderland were still well beaten because going forward he may great, but he could be the weak link defensively.

    France are a formiddable attacking team, without doubt. We need as many good defenders and defensive midfielders as possible, and then hope to hit France from set pieces or another way. Sacrificing a defensive midfielder for the luxury of Andy Reid would be madness against the French. They have players who are used to defending against Champions League players, week in week out. So defending against Andy Reid would be a walk in the park for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    Again with Andy Reid?

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    Sunderland lost 2-0 right? There is no point one player playing world class football if your team then loses, probably because of defensive weakness in midfield and at the back.

    Give me two defensive midfielders who do nothing other than defend all night and yet the team wins than an attacking midfielder who ends up on the losing team.

    Reid does not fit into the current Irish management's plans and probably for the reasons shown today. They guy can attack but Sunderland were still well beaten because going forward he may great, but he could be the weak link defensively.

    France are a formiddable attacking team, without doubt. We need as many good defenders and defensive midfielders as possible, and then hope to hit France from set pieces or another way. Sacrificing a defensive midfielder for the luxury of Andy Reid would be madness against the French. They have players who are used to defending against Champions League players, week in week out. So defending against Andy Reid would be a walk in the park for them.

    Whats happens if we are a goal down in Stade de France with 20 minutes to go, what player in our squad gets on the ball and makes a difference. Nobody! Look at the bigger picture. He should be in the SQUAD! He would never start but we need a plan B! And we dont have one under Trap!

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    I wasnt nearly as impressed with Reid today as others on here. I agree he was good for a side that didnt score. He is a good player but people on here watch his every move like it is the second coming of Pele. So he is this years Stephen Ireland. I thought he was OK today.
    I agree he should be in the squad of course but Ireland would not be World Cup favoites if he was included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyspurr View Post
    Whats happens if we are a goal down in Stade de France with 20 minutes to go, what player in our squad gets on the ball and makes a difference. Nobody! Look at the bigger picture. He should be in the SQUAD! He would never start but we need a plan B! And we dont have one under Trap!
    I had a look back at some player ratings for Irelands game against Italy in Bari.

    In those ratings, Keith Andrews was given an 8.

    Glenn Whelan has scored two goals and looks much more likely to score than McGeady, Duff, Hunt and so on and probably Andy Reid.

    I think some people have been listening to the wrong type of soccer analysts, you know the sort who exagerate the qualities of some players and completely do down the qualities of other players.

    Andrews and Whelan are not bad players. Andy Reid is not a world class player.

    And for the last time Reid will not be in the squad for the French games. As for Trap knowing what he is doing, he knows better than you, Giles, Dunphy, and so on what he is doing, far better.

    He is not a bumbling fool, Andy Reid is not his type of player, he is entitled to that view. I have a strong suspicion if Reid was in the team against Italy for both matches we would have conceded a lot more goals than we did.

    If you are talking about replacing McGeady, Lawrence, Duff with Andy Reid, I'm prepared to listen, but replacing two central midfielders with A Reid is pretty much a non runner and would risk us conceding another goal or even two.

    Remember, in soccer, if you concede more goals than you score, you lose. And when Reid was in the Irish team I don't remember us scoring lots of goals against the really good teams such as Germany. Yet against an Italian team at a similiar level to Germany we scored 3 without Reid.

    I also think Steven Hunt gives us far more than Andy Reid. Hunt runs and runs all night, tracks back, runs at defenders who usually end up pulling him down and giving away frees in dangerous positions as happened in both Italian games. We are dangerous from setpieces and Hunt is proven at getting the frees for those setpieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    Again with Andy Reid?

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    Sunderland lost 2-0 right? There is no point one player playing world class football if your team then loses, probably because of defensive weakness in midfield and at the back.

    Give me two defensive midfielders who do nothing other than defend all night and yet the team wins than an attacking midfielder who ends up on the losing team.

    Reid does not fit into the current Irish management's plans and probably for the reasons shown today. They guy can attack but Sunderland were still well beaten because going forward he may great, but he could be the weak link defensively.

    France are a formiddable attacking team, without doubt. We need as many good defenders and defensive midfielders as possible, and then hope to hit France from set pieces or another way. Sacrificing a defensive midfielder for the luxury of Andy Reid would be madness against the French. They have players who are used to defending against Champions League players, week in week out. So defending against Andy Reid would be a walk in the park for them.
    You just seem the type of chap who comments on players without ever seen them play. Out of interest when did you last see Andy Reid play or have you ever seen him?


    I was at the game and Sunderland should not have lost . They missed a penalty and Gomez was outstanding in goal for Spurs. The two goals scored today had nothing to do with Andy Reid so to use this in your defensive of Trap as an excuse to leave him out is nothing short of hilarious.

    We can’t hold onto the ball in midfield and thats why we concede goals. Andy Reid certainly showed how good he could do this to-day.

    I suggest you watch Sky sports 2 at 8 pm, press the red button and watch the whole of Spurs v Sunderland game. Andy Reid will be one showing the rest of them how to play football in case you don’t recognise him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    You just seem the type of chap who comments on players without ever seen them play. Out of interest when did you last see Andy Reid play or have you ever seen him?


    I was at the game and Sunderland should not have lost . They missed a penalty and Gomez was outstanding in goal for Spurs. The two goals scored today had nothing to do with Andy Reid so to use this in your defensive of Trap as an excuse to leave him out is nothing short of hilarious.

    We can’t hold onto the ball in midfield and thats why we concede goals. Andy Reid certainly showed how good he could do this to-day.

    I suggest you watch Sky sports 2 at 8 pm, press the red button and watch the whole of Spurs v Sunderland game. Andy Reid will be one showing the rest of them how to play football in case you don’t recognise him!
    If you knew anything about football, you'd probably realise that trying to beat France at the style of game they excel at, will only lead to defeat for us.
    They will control the majority of possession against us, but we will be so tight that they will struggle and hopefully NOT score a goal against us.

    Reid does not fit into that system that Trap has adopted. End of story. Should be in the squad but isn't... boohoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I wasnt nearly as impressed with Reid today as others on here. I agree he was good for a side that didnt score. He is a good player but people on here watch his every move like it is the second coming of Pele. So he is this years Stephen Ireland. I thought he was OK today.
    I agree he should be in the squad of course but Ireland would not be World Cup favoites if he was included.

    Did you see the whole match or just making your usual judgement on how a player performed by watching a couple of clips from the highlights on your tv?
    Last edited by FarBeag; 07/11/2009 at 10:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    You just seem the type of chap who comments on players without ever seen them play. Out of interest when did you last see Andy Reid play or have you ever seen him?


    I was at the game and Sunderland should not have lost . They missed a penalty and Gomez was outstanding in goal for Spurs. The two goals scored today had nothing to do with Andy Reid so to use this in your defensive of Trap as an excuse to leave him out is nothing short of hilarious.

    We can’t hold onto the ball in midfield and thats why we concede goals. Andy Reid certainly showed how good he could do this to-day.

    I suggest you watch Sky sports 2 at 8 pm, press the red button and watch the whole of Spurs v Sunderland game. Andy Reid will be one showing the rest of them how to play football in case you don’t recognise him!
    You'd swear Andy Reid never played for Ireland.

    He was a regular in the team from 2004 to 2008, which coincided with one of the worst periods in Irish international soccer.

    Against top teams like France under Kerr and Germany under Stan, we were unable to score once in those four games, with the great Andy Reid pulling the strings in midfield.

    We were mauled against poor teams like Cyprus and in Croke Park with Reid pulling the strings we managed the grand total of one goal against the Cypriots, scored by a defender if I remember correctly.

    So where then is the evidence that when Andy Reid steps up to international level, Ireland play better and score more goals? On the contrary with Andy Reid in the Irish team the evidence is they score much less.

    Ah but of course it's going to be different this time with Andy Reid playing. In his 27 previous chances with Ireland, we lost to teams like Cyprus, were unable to score against France or Germany, struggled to beat teams like San Marino. But this time, it's going to be different, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noddy102 View Post
    If you knew anything about football, you'd probably realise that trying to beat France at the style of game they excel at, will only lead to defeat for us.
    They will control the majority of possession against us, but we will be so tight that they will struggle and hopefully NOT score a goal against us.

    Reid does not fit into that system that Trap has adopted. End of story. Should be in the squad but isn't... boohoo.


    I do know something about football but if I didn’t I wouldn’t come to you for advice.

    Anyway where did I say that he should be in the first 11? I was at the match today, I commented on his wonderful performance and queried why Trap continues to ignore a player of his ability. I am leaving it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    Did you see the whole match or just making your usual judgement on how a player performed by watching a couple of clips from the hightlights on your tv?
    I dont think we get "hightlights" here really to be honest. I did actually watch today and my opinion is that Andy was good and not great. Again they lost 2-0. Just who would you compare him to today, Ronaldo? Messi? Di Stefano? Maradona?
    He is a good player and as I said should be in the squad but he wasnt that great today. He wasnt going up against the 84 Brazilian team either mind you and THEY DIDNT SCORE.
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    Phil Thompson was raving about him on Soccer Saturday today on Sky. Theres no doubt he should be in the squad and his non inclusion is the only down side to Traps management so far for me.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Watching the highlights of Sunderland game now on RTE.

    I have just seen the Spurs first goal. Reid bypassed in midfield. When Keane makes a run into the box, Andy Reid the nearest Sunderland player to him, heads out the field, Keane knocks in a sitter with no-one near. Reid at fault for Keane goal

    As I suspected, defensively poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I dont think we get "hightlights" here really to be honest. I did actually watch today and my opinion is that Andy was good and not great. Again they lost 2-0. Just who would you compare him to today, Ronaldo? Messi? Di Stefano? Maradona?
    He is a good player and as I said should be in the squad but he wasnt that great today. He wasnt going up against the 84 Brazilian team either mind you and THEY DIDNT SCORE.

    Thanks for pointing out the error. Just spouting more rubbish as usual.

    I was at the game so I think I may be in a better position to comment on Andy Reids display don’t you?

    As for the rest of your post I suggest you stick to your building job instead of a feeble attempt to be a comedian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    Thanks for pointing out the error. Just spouting more rubbish as usual.

    I was at the game so I think I may be in a better position to comment on Andy Reids display don’t you?

    As for the rest of your post I suggest you stick to your building job instead of a feeble attempt to be a comedian.
    Ray Houghtan pointed out the same error five minutes after I posted on here. I think he is in a better position to comment than you, seeing as he was a top level professoinal soccer player for 20 years, don't you think.

    Reid was also pulled out of position for the second goal. He was the central defensive midfielder, that's where he should have stayed. Ball comes across to Huddlestone and Reid is out of position and cannot stop the shot.

    Clearly you didn't see how he ran out the field while Crouch was heading the ball towards Robbie Keane.

    By the way, I don't work as a builder, what gave you that idea?

    2 goals conceded, none scored was Sunderland's lot today. If that happened for Ireland, we won't beat the French.

    I like what Andy Reid has to offer going forward. But defensive midfielder he aint.

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    I only saw the second half, he was great on the offensive but quite a liability defensively.
    Trap has been proven quite sound to go with 2 central midfielders for us. Andrews and Whelan are the best available for the starting team, that's the sad truth. Andy would be a great option for our bench or playing in front of the 2 CMs
    Did he hit that through ball for the aptly named Bent?
    He looked quite knackered in the last 15 - 20 minutes.

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    It was Malbranche who played the ball through to Bent for the penalty. Great ball, if Andy Reid did that, we'd never hear the end of it.

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    Andy is quite capable of doing that. Malbranque hit it exquisitely.

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    I'm all for having Andy Reid on the bench but it is quite obvious that he doens't fit into Trap's system as a central midfielder.

    He's behind Duff, Hunt, McGeady, Lawrence and possibly Kilbane as a wide midfielder.

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