Club Budgets 2016

**nigel-harps1954** · 07/12/2015, 5:37 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

cheers lads - Charlie that's where my mind goes too.

So whats the connection between McGettigans and O'Connor or Mulvey/Kavanagh?

No connection. McGettigans aren't involved there at all now.

**SkStu** · 07/12/2015, 5:41 PM

ok - gotcha. Thanks.

So it is just some multimillionaire property developers looking to invest in a football club to **** away their millions. Seems legit.

**Charlie Darwin** · 07/12/2015, 5:50 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

cheers lads - Charlie that's where my mind goes too.

So whats the connection between McGettigans and O'Connor or Mulvey/Kavanagh?

No connection - they both wanted the club and O'Connor won.

Kavanagh and Mulvey I don't know what the links are. Both developers so presumably some sort of business relationship.

**colonelwest** · 07/12/2015, 8:29 PM

Milway/ O'Connor also want the property gravy train to get going again as they have plans to basically turn the Carlisle into office blocks and apartments and either move the club out to the arse end of nowhere in Bray or if they can't get away with that have the pitch & small stands as the back garden/ square to all the newly built offices/ apartments and make a killing selling them then.

**pineapple stu** · 08/12/2015, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

...in a club based in a highly-desirable area of the country.

You do know Bray are based in Bray, yep?

**Dalymountrower** · 08/12/2015, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You do know Bray are based in Bray, yep?

It`s Wicklow solidarity thing.

If you look at the monstrosities that Wicklow CC gave permission for in an actual desirable town like Greystones, I can see a cluster of high rises in the Carlisle within three years and Bray playing in the back of an industrial estate miles from the Dart line.

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/12/2015, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You do know Bray are based in Bray, yep?

Haha yeah, apart from the skanger parts the bits on the sea, like the stadium, are pretty desirable.

**Philosophizer** · 08/12/2015, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Haha yeah, apart from the skanger parts the bits on the sea, like the stadium, are pretty desirable.

I'd say the Carlisle grounds is highly desirable to a developer... right beside the sea (that means sea views from a high-rise apt blocks), dart station just around the corner, and the LUAS is planned to go right to the ground aswell at some stage. Easy to see those lads are plannin on making a killing from developing it some day. The owners aren't even denying it from what i understand. They've said that they won't seek to acquire the grounds UNTIL a new facility has been delivered by the club.

the bit i don't get is, the grounds are currently owned by the council. Would the council willingly give up such a prized piece of real estate at so the developers can make a mountain of cash??

**Seagull** · 08/12/2015, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

the bit i don't get is, the grounds are currently owned by the council. Would the council willingly give up such a prized piece of real estate at so the developers can make a mountain of cash??

Have a read of this to see what the council might do...http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-31410548.html

**Martinho II** · 08/12/2015, 4:39 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

No connection. McGettigans aren't involved there at all now.

I always thought that Brays sponsors were linked with McGettigans?

**Dodge** · 08/12/2015, 4:42 PM

Deal fell through in May
http://www.balls.ie/football/what-is...nderers/300789

**Mr A** · 08/12/2015, 4:43 PM

Yeah, they own the Royal Hotel, but I would be very surprised indeed if that deal were to be renewed!

**wonder88** · 08/12/2015, 11:54 PM

Seems like exciting times ahead for Bray. According to the Phoenix magazine the Kavanagh guy is known as the Ronaldo of the building/developing scene. No doubt that the Carlisle ground site is extremely valuable. But it is a public asset and even if it is controlled by Wicklow County Council, there must be some people who would be opposed to handing over such valuable property to private interests. I had hoped that we had seen the end of LoI clubs as property plays, but it looks like we have another one. Anyone know how the Doncaster Rovers story played out in the end.

**disgruntled** · 14/12/2015, 1:52 PM

I met someone at the cup semi final between Bray & Cork City who said that a deal is already signed & sealed.
This person who lives locally said the Carlisle ground will be a Luas station on the Green line which will be extended from the Brides Glen station.
They seemed to know what they were talking about so who knows what's happening.

**Mr A** · 14/12/2015, 2:30 PM

Seems legit.

**pineapple stu** · 15/12/2015, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by disgruntled

This person who lives locally said the Carlisle ground will be a Luas station on the Green line which will be extended from the Brides Glen station.

The same Luas line extension that's been planned for the past decade?

**disgruntled** · 21/12/2015, 9:37 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The same Luas line extension that's been planned for the past decade?

I wouldn't know to be honest.
Just putting it out there.
It would be sad to see Bray shifted off to somewhere else though.

**A Wanderer** · 21/12/2015, 9:01 PM

Originally Posted by disgruntled

I wouldn't know to be honest.
Just putting it out there.
It would be sad to see Bray shifted off to somewhere else though.

Ground cant be touched for another 11 years Carlisle has to be used as a sports amenity (council clause ) so any investment by a developer would be long term project unless they can get councilors to overturn clause now that could never happen could it?

**disgruntled** · 28/12/2015, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by A Wanderer

Ground cant be touched for another 11 years Carlisle has to be used as a sports amenity (council clause ) so any investment by a developer would be long term project unless they can get councilors to overturn clause now that could never happen could it?

This is the problem.