4 points from Germany, enough said.
We don't need to fear anyone.
We are on the up!
You guys are on top tonight as Conor McGregor wipes the mat with a quality opponent...oh...lord...he won in seconds..
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
Who??Originally Posted by DeLorean
You're gas!
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Yea I saw that, had to stay up to watch it and even then it was delayed a further hour, all that for 13 second!
I also backed Conner to win by KO or TKO at 5/2, which was a special offer, most other bookmakers
were going 6/4 iirc, nearly all his wins are by KO or TKO, so that seemed better value than 10/11 for a win.
It was over before it started really, those who watch on pay per view must have felt robbed!
Difficult group, but I think we can do better than 2012. Group E also the worst group in which we could have been drawn in the sense it provides the toughest route to the final for all the group qualifiers.
If we win the group, we'll play the runner-up of group D (Spain, Czech Republic, Turkey or Croatia).
If we finish second, we'll play the winner of group F (Portugal, Iceland, Austria or Hungary).
If we finish third and qualify, we'll play either the winner of group A (France, Romania, Albania or Switzerland) or group D.
I'm not too disappointed with the draw. I think it will be great. Belgium flatter to deceive. Wales beat them & drew with them in the qualifying so they definitely can be beaten. Italy have no striker at the moment with only 9 goals between their current 5 strikers. Sweden are very average aside from Zlatan. I think it's possible to pick up points in this group & there will be a lot of twists & turns.
"We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo
Yeah, I agree. I think it's a draw that once you get over the initial shock factor and break it down, there's plenty to be optimistic about. There were better draws for sure but I quite like our group. It's going to be very tough to qualify but that was always going to be the way.
I think Greece would have went into Euro 2004 with similar thoughts of "oh crap, Portugal, Spain and Russia".
Didn't work out too badly for them.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
For getting out of the group, I think we got a middling group. I'd rate Slovakia, Poland and Czech rep better than Sweden. Imo, Wales, NI and Turkey have a harder task than us.
Our route to the final is another matter. I wonder how it will go in the French camp, will there be more disruptions and will the country rally around to support them?
They were tardy at WC 1998, even the president Chirac waited until the final before he dared to don the scarf.
Im surprised with the negative reaction to the group. We were fourth seeds after all!!
I possibly wouldve preferred England or Portugal but Belgium is not bad at all. You certainly would give us a fighting chance against them, particularly if a few of their key players continue their form and injury difficulties. I wanted to avoid France, Germany and Spain first and foremost.
The second seed draw is definitely the worst. However, on paper this is not a very impressive Italian side, particularly going forward. But the Italians somehow always manage to get the job done. We might get a draw against them.
Sweden is the big one. Not a bad draw either. I watched them in the play offs and while they were impressive in patches, Ibra was really the difference between the two teams. It will be critical to keep him quiet. Going to be such a massive game to start the Euros as if we lose that then it would be very very difficult to see us qualifying.
From the other seeds point of view, Im sure we were far from their first choices from pot 4.
Frankly, I am just delighted to be at the Euros and here on in will be a bonus and surely it cant be as bad as 2012. I know Roy Keane would not be impressed with that view but it is reflective of the quality we have in our squad. I do hope we maintain the upward trajectory over the last few months and who knows then come next summer.
That's word for word how I feel too, except I'm quite happy to have avoided England for some reason.
My opinion on how good or bad teams are has been rubbished thanks to Bosnia, but for what it's worth, I think we're not too badly off with our lot. Before Italy were drawn I was extremely positive, so probably no point in getting too worked up by them. Pot 3 is very beatable across the board, so it didn't particulary bother me, but I think we've done well with Sweden. Zlatan aside, they are a very ordinary side. The only, and it's very small, worry I'd have is that we play them in his new current city, and it might work in Sweden's favour considering he's an idol over there.
As for Pot A and B, I look at these things in the split, top three to avoid, and the three you'd be ok with getting:
For me avoiding Spain, France and Germany in the top pot, Italy, Russia and Ukraine in B. I don't think Belgium have been awesome for the collection of players they have. They were never in danger of missing out, but they didn't overawe any either during qualifying. The pressure will be on them to produce, and it will be interesting to see how they do first up against Italy. Get a win, and it could springboard their campaign; don't win and they are under pressure immediately.
Italy are just too unpredicatable. A normal qualifying campaign for them. Domestic league struggling, not really comparable to the german, spanish or english clubs for the level of player, all looks good for us. That is normally the ingredients for a dogged Italian tournament.
Very exciting all the same.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
I think Italy as second seeds is a kicker.
Have the group as, say, Belgium, Switzerland and Sweden and there wouldn't be the same comments, even given our awful record against the Swiss.
It's a tough group, but not as bad as 2012. But sure let's see how it goes.
I think we have a chance, it's a small chance but it was always going to be that. 2012 required two major and one minor miracle from the off, this group doesn't quite call for that and we are in better shape going in also, there's is more to us in terms of adapting how we set up for different opponents for a start. It will be very fine margins I feel, and the smart money is probably on a group stage return home, but only just. Even if this transpires, I am confident it wont be in the manner of 2012, and that, coupled with the group we managed to come out of to get there, victories in must win games against bigger reputations, represents progress.
And I cannot wait for it. Great times.
Six months ago we only had a small chance of making the playoffs, let alone actually qualify. Great times indeed!
I agree, and a sell out Stade de France game against Sweden with the hordes of green and yellow fans will be fantastic. I can't wait to get my rubber hammer outCan we all hum along to the Swedish anthem though?
The only weapons ye two, would be able use, or know how to use would certainly be made of plastic.
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And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
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