Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
what about st michaels of ennis ... were they also major rivals to newmarket in early /late 8os ..
Has any club, outside the following ever won the premier?
newtown
newmarket
avenue
bunratty
st.pats
bridge utd.
what about st michaels of ennis ... were they also major rivals to newmarket in early /late 8os ..
They were,but Newmarket even did well in the FAI and Munster although Avenues FAI final apperance is the best a Clare junior side has ever done.
Michaels had the great Noel Ryan with them,who also played for Cork Celtic (whose Captain was the Chelsea legend Bobby Tambling),and hurled for Clare.He sadly died recently.
The only thing was they had the worst pitch imaginable across the road from Doora in a farm yard which should never have been allowed ,even in Clare.
Do you include the old First Division in this???
Sorry, didnt realise there was an old first divison. Lets say "Top Flight"........
1986-1987 Newtown on the league and the shield but we dont count these minor tropheys
1988-1989 Newtown won the double...League and cup (last haughey cup)
Weve no record of the smaller mickey mouse tropheys in between..
crap pitch alright i played on it ,,, but they were some team !!!
i would imagine there is also still some crap pitches in clare league today ... anybody played on any recently
I think Hermitage St Michaels and Lifford Shannon Town??
crap pitch alright i played on it ,,, but they were some team !!!
i would imagine there is also still some crap pitches in clare league today ... anybody played on any recently
Corofin, Kirush....both awful. Bridge Celtic, grassy but hilly.
it is a shame when u see effort some clubs make to provide good playing surface / changing rooms .. hut
and still a few can get away with terrible pitches
there are five comps in clare every year and fai and munster.
avenue formed 1983/84 season won second then first. so since 1985 been in the top flight. in 20 seasons they have won the league 9 times (pratically one every two years) 86/87/91/92/93/95/96/2000/2005. cup again one every two years. 85/86/87/91/94/96/2000/ runners up 89/90/93/98. they lost in fai final 1990 2-0 cherry orchard and lost in semi 1997 to portmarnock. they also contest 3 if not four munster semi finals. i think avenue were the only team to win all five comp in 87/88 season.
(guessing 4 years but will have the rest later) there hasn't been one season that they haven't won one of these competitions. (although shared one cup)
newmarket must have an equally impressive haul if not better. thats why the rivalry between newmarket and avenue is there. in fairness bunratty have had a good 5/6 years lately.
with every new crop comes new rivalry though a major problem over the last few years was getting commitment from them. had cracking youths team 5 years ago but only 2 playing. avenue have cracking unerage up to 14's so won't have youths team for another 3 years. unfortunatly i think the current team will not be good enough to retain league. (but thats not to say we won't give it a try)
ps if you think the other comps are mickey mouse why enter a team?????????
there are plenty of great players out there who would love to have won just one of those so called mickey mouse comps
The above is all opinion and based on personal experience. Unless stated otherwise it is not a dig at anybody, well probably none of you lot.
go easy with the mickey mouse comments. You have to be at least part of a league winning team before you can even start thinking that way. Even then its not on! Try telling the other lads in your team that these tropheys are mickey mouse, you'd get a good kick in d'arse!!!!! peace.
totally agree as a player i won lleague / cup / fai area / munster area finals... never thought of them as mickey mouse cups as we had to beat some bloody good teams to win them
Kirush gets my vote.Crap pitch,long grass even in December, no effort at all by the club.Markings done in the dark after an ****up the previous night . .Gets all my votes and wins handsdown.
2.Despite Tullas great efforts theirs still comes next.It looses marks cause their previous effort at Tyreda Park had a stump of a tree growing up through the sideline.
3rd place goes to the St Pats pitch on the edge of the mountain with bonfire patch in the middle and giant hamsters wheel at the side of the pitch.In January it is a particularly delightful place to visit,especially the entrance where I always feel its to keep the landlord away or at least hope that visiting teams will just give up and go home.
CLARE of THE CEAD MILE SOCCER FAILTES.
PS Newmarket tried exceptionally hard this year but the group voting of the Easter Bloc Countries blew it for them.They also lost too many points because it is only temporary before they get their own place done.Anyone know when it is due to be reopened??
have you seen tullycrine and burrens pitch, even kilkees joke of a pitch. who passes these pitches. maybe this should be a point for all our clubs to bring up at the agm. several different clubs, then they might take notice.
The above is all opinion and based on personal experience. Unless stated otherwise it is not a dig at anybody, well probably none of you lot.
do you also notice on a good pitch .. referee will pace out pitch checking size of pitch / penalty area also check all nets in goal
i know in the past teams with good set ups have been fined for having 1 corner flag missing of pole !!! and yet week after you are playing in grass up around your ankles . dry lime thrown down to mark pitch and goalposts held up by cement blocks and referree has no problem with it , !!!
I dont believe the powers that be are interested or organised enough to put minimum requirement levels of pitches as part of the entry specification .I may be wrong to prejudge that the league been to start in mid August but I belive the start date is now 25th august.Since when is the 25th mid any month.and this was just organising an early start !!
Imagine if all grounds were to be examinined under a set of requirements under different headings with marks for each.If a minimum total points requirement was not reached then that pitch would be unacceptable to be used for any game.
Simple but there is no willingness by a lot of the clubs and subsequently the Commitee to assert itself and apply this as away of improving conditions.
Kilkees has to be the worst I ever saw.
You wouldn't allow a goat to graze it, its so bad & theres always the off chance that you'll get a belt of a golf ball on the forehead.
The Tulla pitch is also brutal but at least they are in the process of setting up a new ground.
I agree with whoever said St Pats pitch on the side of the mountain is some hole of a place. You have to tog out in a farmyard covered in sh1te. Really pleasant experience on a cold winters Sunday morning.
The pitch Newmarket used this year was terrible as well.
The other pitch I hate playing on is the Fairgreen.
The best pitches are Bridge Utd's, Newtown, Bunratty, Kilkishen & probably Rineannas even with the slope.
Coonaghs Utd pitch which Cratloe play on is also a good pitch.
Will they be playing there next year ??
Overall in comparison to Limerick the pitches are a disgrace.
I also think that pitch in Doora considering how much it cost was a big waste of money. For a start its hardly ever used so whats the point in having it in the 1st place when some of that money might have been better placed being spread around throughout the league in the form of grants to help clubs improve facilities etc.
In my opinion that money would have been alot better invested in something like the setup Wolfe Tones have put in place which is awesome. Its not like it wouldn't pay for itself either cause the pitches at the Tones are booked out all year around.
What are your opinions ?? Agree or Disagree ??
should the clare league then consider fining clubs if pitches are not up to a certain standard ......... they would make a fortune next year
surprised clare league have not thought of tis already
too right. With respect to the few officials( i use that term lightly) who actually give a sh1t, the facilities or lack of them is a disgrace. How someone doesn't get a serious injury playing on some of the alleged pitches is a minor miracle. If the start date of 25th of aug is definite then thats typical of the Clare league. We were promised an early start ie 1st week in August, sure now we'll play one match & then have a week off for the all ireland final, then our fine autum weather will kick in....same old story 3-4 league games played by xmas. Someone needs a kick in d'arse!!!
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