Nobodys saying the premiership isn't better than the EL, but he doesn't just pick premiership players. If we had 23 premiership players it wouldn't be an issue.Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
I was saying he is a premiership player in comparison to an EL player. I don't support English soccer. But it doesn't take rocket science too see its a better standard of players than here
Nobodys saying the premiership isn't better than the EL, but he doesn't just pick premiership players. If we had 23 premiership players it wouldn't be an issue.Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
I like Kerr and all that, but it annoys me is that he has never been seen at Turners Cross. Where was he when we beat Malmo? Where was he when Doyle scored against NEC?
In general the standard is not good enought for the international team but there are individuals that surely must be close enough to the standard.(Heary, Doyle)
I think Kerr is doing an excellent job overall and he is very lucky to have Damien Duff. But Kerr is a lucky manager.
If you read the whole thread you'll see I was talking about Jon Macken being picked
Macken has now lost his place in the Man City first team, and when he was there he was rubbish. He played in the premiership but he certinaly did not prove himself to be a premiership standard player.Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
I'd say you Kerr haters are great fun to be around in Lansdowne Road. Great support altogether. Well done lads.
I wouldn't deny for a minute that, on the whole, the premeirship is a much higher standard thah the eL, obviously.Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
However, no matter whether he choose to speak about this himself or was asked a question, he did a lot of needless damage to a league that so many clubs are trying so hard to improve in the face of incedible difficulties put in it's way by the soccer authorities, of which he is the main "face", and he has added to thsoe difficuties now.
He would have seen Byrne in training for two days as well, don't forget. Plenty of time to form an opinion. That's why you have training, after all.Originally Posted by Slash/ED
But we do have 23 Premiership and First Division players, which I've no problems about. Barrett has four goals for Coventry this season, so he is at least getting plenty of first-team action. Have to agree with you about Maybury and Hearts though.Originally Posted by Slash/Ed
Would be interested to see why he said these things. If he was asked by a journalist, he's hardly going to turn around and tell him to sod off.
How do you figure that?! The amount of preparation he puts into each match surely means that any good fortune is well-earned, not lucky!Originally Posted by harry crumb
FFS.....Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
Stupid post....
Are you seriously trying to say that those who might dislike/disagree with Kerr are somehow lesser in thier support for their own country?
Get a grip man, I detested Charlton and McCarthy, for instance, so did that mean I wanted my country to lose?
Byrne would barley have trained, he was flown over at the last minute along with Douglas and would probably have been knackered for the little bit of training he did take part in.Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Barretts in and out of the Coventry team and personally I've never rated him. For me, he's still living off his reputation of being a promising youngster at a club like Arsenal.But we do have 23 Premiership and First Division players, which I've no problems about. Barrett has four goals for Coventry this season, so he is at least getting plenty of first-team action. Have to agree with you about Maybury and Hearts though.
Would be interested to see why he said these things. If he was asked by a journalist, he's hardly going to turn around and tell him to sod off.
And yeah I'd like t see why he said these things but even if he was asked by a journalist he didn't have to completley run down the league and it's players like he did. He's done alot of harm with these comments to the league he's supposedly such a fan of for me, more than he needed to.
Well if what you're saying is what you call "support" then fair enough. Sorry.
Jesus lads just calm doon a bit!
it was in the SUnday MIrror and im sure it was Kerr who was asked about the eL players - not just come out with it!
it is very negative but i spose what he's getting at is that he wants players who are playing at that higher level consistently - i.e. not just one run in a summer...
Hearts werent great no, but in the case of Maybury he has to deal with better players than Heary on a regular basis plus he's played in Europe in the last few years.. not only this...
hard to see who would make the step up next season tho eh. cant see any myself..
And he could have given a non-commital, say nothing really, answer.Originally Posted by gypsyfella
Its not my country. It has nothing to do with me. the "Republic of Ireland" represents british football and the FAI. It doesn't even represent the whole of ireland. It picks brit cast-offs like morrison holland and macken. So why should I support a joke of a team representing a joke of an association, supported by (mostly) idiots who support british football over their own? What has the ROI team ever done to support Cork City, or the eircom League? Nothing. So why should I support them?Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
I don't hate him at all. I was glad to see him get the job. I just think he's made some very silly mistakes and I'm very annoyed about them. I don't go to landsdowne road, because I refuse to support a british team picked by the FAI, and line the FAI's pockets for the privilege.Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
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you completely missed my point. over the summer when kerr was making noises about picking elliot, he didn't have those 9 goals in div one and had hardly played any first team football, while Doyle was pretty much equalling his scoring rate with the U21's, and scoring goals in europe. And as far as I'm concerned Nijmegen (and malmo and nantes) would be of AT LEAST first div standard in england.Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
So were Shels, Heary was playing superbly against the likes of Rosenborg long before this season. And it is on the European form of Hearts that Kerr is picking Maybury, at least he said as much himself, otherwise every player in the SPL would be pushing for a place in the international team. I seriously doubt the quality of the players Maybury faces regularly is good enough to be considered a high enough level to be picked for our international team, going by what Kerr has said.Originally Posted by gypsyfella
I'm a fan of maybury's, I think he 's a very solid player, but Heary has just as much claim to a place in the squad as he has IMO
If he had done that, people would still have moaned that he could have said something!!Originally Posted by patsh
All he's done is point out the obvious lads, no need to get hysterical about it.
And before anyone asks, I support the EL, I try to take in a game whenever I'm home, be it the Rams or City.
The simple answer is he doesn't think anyone in the EL is good enough at the moment because it's not the strongest league and they are not up against good quality players every week. Put them into a better league, be it the Premiership, Championship or La Liga and then he will see if they can cut it.
Or the SPL, that centre of world class football that we're picking Maybury from...Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
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