Quoteie something like this:
the Irish team have discovered their four potential playoff opponents: Sweden, Ukraine, Hungary and Bosnia.
So what is the current situation in a comprehensible manner?
ie something like this:
the Irish team have discovered their four potential playoff opponents: Sweden, Ukraine, Hungary and Bosnia.
Quite frankly that's not one of your better posts Kingdom, you are indulging in contrivance.Originally Posted by Kingdom
There was no such thing as playing Germany with no pressure, what planet are you on?
Celtic were invariably at home first in their great run to the UEFA Cup final under O'Neill. Not sure it matters too much to us. In theory being at home first would give us a better chance of having something to hold on to going into second leg. By the same token playing away first means there's a bigger chance we'll have to chase the tie in the second leg. Think I'd prefer to be hanging on than chasing.
That's it, I think.
Maybe.
Ah right. So we might as well put an asterisk beside every win we have ever had against better sides than us due to "no pressure or expectation".
Daft comparison.
You've got no fans.
So if we do qualify then we will be in Pot 4 for the EURO 2016 group stages and drawn against 3 teams who are theoretically better than us.
We need to have a better coefficient than 6 other teams there to make Pot 3. We are already 'better' than four N. Ireland, Wales, Iceland and Albania who have all qualified. So we would like Norway and Slovenia to also qualify through their playoff. It might make life a little easier at the tournament proper - but then again with Wales and Iceland in the bottom Pot who knows.
So I want:
Slovenia to beat Hungary
Norway to beat Sweden
Ireland to beat Bosnia
Ukraine to beat Denmark
This gives the other two teams with lower coefficients (Norway and Slovenia) a chance to qualify too and I think we can take Bosnia. And also puts Ukraine in Pot 2 for the potential of an easy draw!
Then in France we have can have a group of England, Ukraine, Ireland, N.Ireland and take it from there!!
I do understand where he's coming from when I draw a comparison between the home game against Scotland and the home game against Germany. Admittedly, Germany are a far superior outfit and one we weren't expected by anyone to beat. On the other hand, Scotland came here and, whilst we put in a good performance, managed to get a draw from us. I found that really disappointing, personally, and really lowered my expectations going into the Germany and Poland games this past week.
In effect, we lost over two legs to both Poland and Scotland. We'll be playing sides of that calibre or similar in the play-offs and we'll probably need to draw away and win at home- we didn't manage to draw away to either Poland or Scotland.
I don't think Kingdom was disputing the validity of our 4 points against the Germans but it was worth noting when stating the notable results of the seeded sides.
Hard to know who I fear from that 4. Probably Ukraine the most. I think Hungary would be the best draw for us, as most people do. Tamas Priskin is their centre forward. Keane signed him for Ipswich and he was pretty poor. It's understandable that people would prefer facing him to Dzeko, Ibrahimovic and Konoplyanka.
Si we face one of these four.
------- --p-------w------d-------l--------f------a-------gd------ots
hungary 10 4 4 2 11 9 2 16
Sweden 10 5 3 2 15 9 6 18
Ukraine 10 6 1 3 14 4 10 19
Bosnia 10 5 2 3 17 12 5 17
---------------------------------------------
Ireland 10 5 3 2 19 7 12 18
Do I hate the editor it is useless!!
Draw looks fine if we avoid Ukraine, they are the booby prize
Last edited by tricky_colour; 13/10/2015 at 10:20 PM.
Yes I think someone posted a list of four teams, but nothing else was not sure what they signicified so I had to find out myself.That's it, I think.
Maybe.
I think is current form rather than historic form we should look at even over a year a teams form can change dramitically.
I mean look at Chelsea for example great last year crap this year.
When is the draw?
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
Sunday morning... 10am-ish.
Would still prefer to avoid them though.
I am quite optimistic we will qualify now especially if we avoid Ukraine.
Said before though it is quite likely it will go to penalties?
I think we will given than are not eligible for international national competitions!!
[edited to make more sense, or not as the case may be!!]
Last edited by tricky_colour; 13/10/2015 at 11:04 PM.
Never thought of that.
Ideally Hungary, but I would take anyone other than Ukraine.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
If you think there is the same pressure and expectation playing away to Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, the standard-bearers (usually) of European football, as there is playing Scotland, Austria, Slovakia, or any other of the 20 middling teams in the Eurozone, then it's not me that is on a different planet.
I think that is a particularly unfair thing to hold against me.Ah right. So we might as well put an asterisk beside every win we have ever had against better sides than us due to "no pressure or expectation".
Daft comparison.
thank you.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
To be fair I think your point was valid enough as well. I wouldn't get too bogged down with the various points some of our potential opponents picked up though. You must admit you'd surely be more concerned if any of them had picked up four points against a Germany or Spain than drips and drabs against so called direct rivals? I definitely would anyway.
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