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    Rovers stadium deal falls apart

    Report on RTE this morning that South Dublin County Council, have refused to extend the planning permission for the Tallaght Stadium. Rovers have said no money has passed hands & the deal was dependant on the planning permission extension.

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    Christ. That means at least another season of their supporters vandelising our place

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    Has there been any statement fron Rovers on this yet?

    This is as big a f*ckup as the Bertie Bowl.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    Has there been any statement fron Rovers on this yet?
    LOL, even if they did who'd believe them. It fell through because the Clarkson deal hadn't been signed, so cast your minds back a few weeks to the announcement of the Clarkson deal being completed.

    Time for the Rovers fans to take over, or breakaway and do an AFC Wimbledon on it. SDCC hold the cards, if they come out and say they won't give any planning for anyone bar Shamrock Rovers FC/ AFC Shamrock Rovers and related developments, then the people who stand to make the money out of the ground will soon fook off. Do a flancare around the rest of the ground to get in and income coming in and then complete the white elephant that is the current stand. All imo obviously....
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Whats the story? Is the deal gone so and Rovers are no nearer a home that they were this time last year? While they were never going to be in Tallaght for the 05 season, will they have a chance of getting there for 06?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER
    Christ. That means at least another season of their supporters vandelising our place
    No S4E, it doesn't. It means that unless we **** the lying *******s who have brought this club to it's knees out of the club there won't be an SRFC next season.

    Tony Maguire - you are a liar. You lied to us all and it's time to pack your bags and **** off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passive
    No S4E, it doesn't. It means that unless we **** the lying *******s who have brought this club to it's knees out of the club there won't be an SRFC next season.

    Tony Maguire - you are a liar. You lied to us all and it's time to pack your bags and **** off.
    Theres a prize for bringing the most fans you know

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    I was at the last game in Milltown will be coming up to 20 years in a few years time it amazing the club survived being on the road so long.
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    Wonder what Roddy has to say about this??.....5/4 he's gone before the start of the season??

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    Bad new for the EL as a whole.

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    Hopefully there will be a way out of it. Someone is bound to come on board when they see whats available from a potential point of view. I would say in Maguires defence that he wouldn't have foreseen any hitches with the planning. Surely this is open to appeal?

    Maybe something should be learned from all this, and the making of announcements and managerial appointments etc should be kept on ice, like we're doing, until everything is 100% signed, sealed and delivered.

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    From the SRFC Ultras site

    Our struggle continues - no sign of the builders retruning to the stadium site despite statements from our Chairman since the end of last season that we were only weeks away from restarting. Our players being sold despite a statement from the Board that no " under contract" players would be released and an effort by the club to have us play our home games in the "Cess Pit" .
    It seems at least the Board have listened to the fans and we will play on the southside of the city.
    Perhaps the threat of a protest by the fans at home games or the non entering of the ground on match days have made the Board think twice.
    It will be a long and difficult season for the fans but the "Hoops" will always remain united in their love of the club
    "Just f##k them all. This is a season which is us against them all. Backs against the wall. They are all out to get us. Despite everything its going to be a great season (a bit like 96/97 all over again) relegation is the enemy,no,everyone is the enemy. We are on our own lads. This is the type of season which will test our loyalty, our dedication, our commitment and our love for Rovers. Get 100% behind Rovers. Full stop. Us against the world - we the supporters have to be 100% behind Rovers - its going to come down to the wire. Rovers, the team, need us more than we need them. Its up to us to give the Hoops the extra man"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    It fell through because the Clarkson deal hadn't been signed,
    Interesting. No deal signed. So that means legally he can walk away. So the lack of a contract works in Rovers favour a few weeks ago and now returns to bite them on the ass.

    Joe, I don't think this can be appealed because what SRFC were looking for was an extension to the time of the planning permission at this stage (I am open to correction). The two years to build it has passed, and a declined planning extension can only be "appealed" by means of a judicial review - i.e. very expensive and very uncertain.

    I do have sympathy for Rovers fans - but the club acted dishonourably (if legally) in the Roddy saga, so why would they expect honour from Maguire now. If you have a sharp operator runningyour club you can't cheer when he scre ws over someone else and complain when he scre ws over the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
    Interesting. No deal signed. So that means legally he can walk away. So the lack of a contract works in Rovers favour a few weeks ago and now returns to bite them on the ass.

    Joe, I don't think this can be appealed because what SRFC were looking for was an extension to the time of the planning permission at this stage (I am open to correction). The two years to build it has passed, and a declined planning extension can only be "appealed" by means of a judicial review - i.e. very expensive and very uncertain.

    I do have sympathy for Rovers fans - but the club acted dishonourably (if legally) in the Roddy saga, so why would they expect honour from Maguire now. If you have a sharp operator runningyour club you can't cheer when he scre ws over someone else and complain when he scre ws over the fans.
    i've avoided gloating so far, but this is a very good point. Maguire should have kept quiet until everything was in place. Roddy will be sick, no money coming into the club. After all the $hite Roddy & Maguire came out with over written contracts , its come back to haunt them & few will have any sleepless nights over Rovers being shafted. If you live by the sword etc etc.

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    Is there a strong possibility that this could be the straw that broke the camel's back?

    Can Rovers actually survive this time?
    I hope this is not the end of the club, and I really hope that that minging cnut Seery doesn't try to use this to get his "club" back into the Premier division....

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap
    Wonder what Roddy has to say about this??.....5/4 he's gone before the start of the season??
    il take it there great odds
    save the sheep shaggers bring back beheadings for waherford

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    Is there a strong possibility that this could be the straw that broke the camel's back?
    I hope not, the league would be a poorer place without Shamrock Rovers

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    I hope this is not the end of the club, and I really hope that that minging cnut Seery doesn't try to use this to get his "club" back into the Premier division....
    Rovers like all teams will be in the premier division as long a they have a licence, its in Rovers hands, no ones elses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
    Joe, I don't think this can be appealed because what SRFC were looking for was an extension to the time of the planning permission at this stage (I am open to correction). The two years to build it has passed, and a declined planning extension can only be "appealed" by means of a judicial review - i.e. very expensive and very uncertain.
    Exactly what Aertel are saying...

    Shamrock Rovers' plans to move to a new stadium in Tallaght have been hit by a major setback with the news that South Dublin County Council has refused to further extend planning permission for the project.

    The county planners turned down the application because they felt it was not clear that extending the planning permission would result in the timely completion of the development.

    It's reported that the council was also uncertain over the precise nature of the relationship between the club and its new investor, Conor Clarkson, who was reported to have pumped E9 million in the club in October.

    However, a source close to Rovers is quoted in the Tallaght Echo as saying that Clarkson has not released any funds to the club, and that any decision to do so was dependent on securing an extension to the planning permission.

    The source added Mr Clarkson was seeking to redesign the stadium to introduce more commercial elements in the second and third phases of development.

    It's understood the council's decision cannot be appealed to An Bord Pleanála, but the club could seek a judicial review. Rovers have been homeless since the sale of the Milltown ground in 1987.


    Quote Originally Posted by joesoap
    I would say in Maguire's defence that he wouldn't have foreseen any hitches with the planning.
    They're cursing Maguire on the Rovers ultras board because they say that they (the fans) had predicted something like this months ago, but Maguire had pressed ahead anyway. Also talk about setting up a new club in the AFC Wimbledon mould, though I don't know if anything will come of that, or if it's been mooted before even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Also talk about setting up a new club in the AFC Wimbledon mould, though I don't know if anything will come of that, or if it's been mooted before even.
    But AFC Wimbledon had to start non-league. AFC Hoops in the UCL?
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