Shamrock Rovers ask RT� to stay away from Tallaght to boost crowds

**placid casual** · 02/10/2015, 10:56 PM

Option (e) is the most plausible.

**mcgonigle** · 03/10/2015, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by placid casual

Option (e) is the most plausible.

If that is the case it doesn't say much about the people that run your club. Complaining 3 weeks ago about tv affecting crowds and revenue (which I agree with) and then turning their nose up at additional revenue. Things can't be that bad if Rovers can afford to turn down money just to stick two fingers up at their superiors.

**White Horse** · 03/10/2015, 9:06 AM

It makes Shamrock Rovers look like absolute amateurs to go public about "TV coverage reducing crowds" and then turn around and impose limits on fans going to the next televised game.

This is the sort of stuff that makes the league look like a joke to the wider sporting public.

**dundalkfc10** · 03/10/2015, 11:40 AM

This has just made the potential for trouble even more likely

Theres gonna be a few hundred Dundalk fans in the home end.

**dundalkfc10** · 03/10/2015, 11:40 AM

Plus u can buy tickets online which I know a few who have already

**White Horse** · 03/10/2015, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by dundalkfc10

Plus u can buy tickets online which I know a few who have already

Very handy. Saves taking time off work and queuing up at Oriel Park at 10am on Monday.

https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/online...product_id=144

**dundalkfc10** · 03/10/2015, 11:56 AM

Great bunch of lads

**Ezeikial** · 03/10/2015, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Very handy. Saves taking time off work and queuing up at Oriel Park at 10am on Monday.

https://www.shamrockrovers.ie/online...product_id=144

It is also clear from the piece on the Dundalk website, that Rovers are also acting up with the allocation of concession and child tickets

Dundalk FC have received a limited allocation of approximately 700 tickets for this match due to ground and security restrictions. Included in that allocation is a very limited amount of concession and juvenile tickets.

The Rovers on-line booking system should also prove handy in accessing discounted tickets when the miserly official allocation is sold out

**Mr A** · 03/10/2015, 12:32 PM

Is there anything to be said for selling the allocation and then asking for more?

**Ezeikial** · 03/10/2015, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Is there anything to be said for selling the allocation and then asking for more?

Apparently it has already been clarified by Rovers officials that no further tickets will be provided

**manic da hoop** · 03/10/2015, 4:59 PM

The away section in Tallaght holds 700 which is, incidentally more than double the size of travelling support that Dundalk have taken to any previous league game in Tallaght. Assuming Dundalk's demand exceeds this number, which section of the ground do Dundalk fans here recommend they go to? For the record, there is of course additional costs incurred by the club when visiting numbers exceed a certain figure (extra stewards, gardai, turnstile blocks etc) which means that the financial gain from selling a couple of hundred extra tickets is pretty much cancelled out.

**White Horse** · 03/10/2015, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

The away section in Tallaght holds 700 which is, incidentally more than double the size of travelling support that Dundalk have taken to any previous league game in Tallaght. Assuming Dundalk's demand exceeds this number, which section of the ground do Dundalk fans here recommend they go to? For the record, there is of course additional costs incurred by the club when visiting numbers exceed a certain figure (extra stewards, gardai, turnstile blocks etc) which means that the financial gain from selling a couple of hundred extra tickets is pretty much cancelled out.

Think of all the costs you are saving by the home support falling to such low levels.

Can you not fit the thousand or so home fans into one of the stands and let Dundalk have the other?

That would be pretty effective segregation and would cut down on security costs.

**manic da hoop** · 03/10/2015, 6:50 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Think of all the costs you are saving by the home support falling to such low levels.

Can you not fit the thousand or so home fans into one of the stands and let Dundalk have the other?

That would be pretty effective segregation and would cut down on security costs.

Presumably you're suggesting something similar too, if the roles were reversed, Dundalk fans being told by their own club to vacate the shed in order to accommodate a larger than normal Rovers crowd. Financial and security reasons aside, I don't know why any self-respecting club would do that.

**Yossarian** · 03/10/2015, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

Presumably you're suggesting something similar too, if the roles were reversed, Dundalk fans being told by their own club to vacate the shed in order to accommodate a larger than normal Rovers crowd. Financial and security reasons aside, I don't know why any self-respecting club would do that.

To be honest if it was Rovers coming to Oriel to maybe win the league I'd want as few of their fans there as possible.
I think the issue here may be more to do with Rovers complaining about reduced attendances at televised games and now restricting the attendance themselves at the very next televised game.
Personally I don't see a huge issue, plenty of Dundalk fans won't travel to Tallaght normally for various reasons so I just hope that everyone who usually travels to our games there get to this game.

**manic da hoop** · 03/10/2015, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by Yossarian

To be honest if it was Rovers coming to Oriel to maybe win the league I'd want as few of their fans there as possible.
I think the issue here may be more to do with Rovers complaining about reduced attendances at televised games and now restricting the attendance themselves at the very next televised game.
Personally I don't see a huge issue, plenty of Dundalk fans won't travel to Tallaght normally for various reasons so I just hope that everyone who usually travels to our games there get to this game.

The concerns over the recent live match had little or nothing to do with the potential Cork crowd that would have come, but everything to do with how the home support was affected on the night. Our club does need to address our falling attendances - there are a number of reasons for this, including TV - but we're talking strictly about our own support here.

As a fan I'm not in the slightest bit concerned by how many visiting supporters ever travel. Financial gains from larger crowds are usually cancelled out by increased security costs, and this game is no exception. I'm satisfied, in this instance, that the club is acting in its own best interest by restricting the away support to what it can safely accommodate in the away section.

**White Horse** · 03/10/2015, 8:03 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

I'm satisfied, in this instance, that the club is acting in its own best interest by restricting the away support to what it can safely accommodate in the away section.

This has nothing to do with security and everything to do with ego. Most clubs would do the same, to be fair.

However, none would been as foolish to have recently requested no TV coverage due to falling crowds.

It makes Rovers look foolish and very small.

**manic da hoop** · 03/10/2015, 9:21 PM

See post 93. You sure?

I would fully expect any other club in the same situation to base their decisions in their own club's interest.

**White Horse** · 03/10/2015, 9:27 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

See post 93. You sure?

I would fully expect any other club in the same situation to base their decisions in their own club's interest.

In the context of the request for no TV coverage due to small crowds? You bet.

Amateur stuff from your board.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 03/10/2015, 10:10 PM

From the model club, well I never.

What will happen is loads of folks will buy a ticket online or go plain clothed into the rovers end away from your ultras.
If people want to see the match then they will get a tickets.

For me i am torn because I hate giving that shower any of my money

**oriel** · 04/10/2015, 10:49 AM

Rovers now have tweeted a match poster in German, translated 'all German fans welcome'

Still only 700 tickets going to the away side. Pure and utter arrogance.