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    Quote Originally Posted by backtowalsall View Post
    Duffy only has one senior cap that he got in a friendly against Costa Rica played in America. Does something he did at underage level tie him down? I didn't think that counted

    Match report here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27383445
    Play competitive for one then switch and play competitive for the other means switch is used (same situation as Michael Keane).

    Don't play competitive for one then switch (not considered switch by FIFA) and play competitive for another means you still have a switch to use so can switch back.

    In this case, Duffy played a spate of games for NI underage and, subsequently, a spate of games for Ireland underage. Some of the games, for both sides, were competitive. Consequently, switch has been used and Duffy is tied, whether he likes it or not (but he clearly does).

    His time will come. No rush with Duffy. Sure even if he looked at the NI side he'd note that Cathcart, Evans and McAuley are bound to be ahead of him. Then there's Baird and McNair. 23 is young enough for a defender. I look forward to his gradual, organic progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    o'shea will be one of oneill's first names on the teamsheet no matter how he is getting on at sunderland
    Big time. He's had his rest now he can tune up his match fitness this weekend because if he doesn't start then he ought to pack his bags.

    The question was actually put to Stephen Hunt about (his good pal, as per Hunt) O'Shea moving on if he doesn't get back into the team before window's end. Hunt said O'Shea is too loyal and wouldn't push for that.

    Anyway, he was excellent against the Scots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Play competitive for one then switch and play competitive for the other means switch is used (same situation as Michael Keane).

    Don't play competitive for one then switch (not considered switch by FIFA) and play competitive for another means you still have a switch to use so can switch back.

    In this case, Duffy played a spate of games for NI underage and, subsequently, a spate of games for Ireland underage. Some of the games, for both sides, were competitive. Consequently, switch has been used and Duffy is tied, whether he likes it or not (but he clearly does).

    His time will come. No rush with Duffy. Sure even if he looked at the NI side he'd note that Cathcart, Evans and McAuley are bound to be ahead of him. Then there's Baird and McNair. 23 is young enough for a defender. I look forward to his gradual, organic progression.
    boll0x. I want him and John Egan to stage a meteoric rise. None of this gradual BS!

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    Squad Watch

    Darren Randolph Started Clean Sheet
    David Forde Sub
    Shay Given Sub
    Rob Elliot Not in Squad
    Keiren Westwood Injured
    Seamus Coleman Started
    Richard Keogh Started
    John O'Shea Started
    Ciaran Clark Started
    Paul McShane Started
    Marc Wilson Sub(62)
    Alex Pearce Sub
    Stephen Ward Sub
    Cyrus Christie Not in Squad
    Greg Cunningham Injured
    Anthony Pilkington Started(90) Assist
    James McCarthy Started
    Jeff Hendrick Started
    Glenn Whelan Started
    Eunan O'Kane Started
    Alan Judge Started
    Stephen Quinn Started
    David Meyler Started
    Robbie Brady Started
    James McClean Started(62)
    Wes Hoolahan Started(31)
    Aiden McGeady Not in Squad
    Harry Arter Injured
    Kevin Doyle Started Goal
    Adam Rooney Started(76) Goal
    Robbie Keane Started
    David McGoldrick Sub(45) Goal
    Anthony Stokes Sub
    Simon Cox Sub
    Shane Long Sub
    Jon Walters Not in Squad
    Daryl Murphy Injured
    Last edited by Closed Account; 30/08/2015 at 1:04 PM.

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    Squad reduced to 28:

    David Forde (Millwall) 20/12/1979 - 23 - 0
    Shay Given (Stoke City) 20/04/1976 - 130 - 0
    Darren Randolph (West Ham United) 12/05/1987 - 2 - 0

    Seamus Coleman (Everton) 11/10/1988 - 28 - 0
    Cyrus Christie (Derby County) 30/09/1992 - 1 - 0
    John O’Shea (Sunderland) 30/04/1981 - 104 - 3
    Marc Wilson (Stoke City) 17/08/1987 - 23 - 1
    Richard Keogh (Derby County) 11/08/1986 - 7 - 1
    Ciaran Clark (Aston Villa) 26/09/1989 – 11 - 1
    Stephen Ward (Burnley) 20/08/1985 - 29 - 2
    Robbie Brady (Norwich City) 14/01/1992 - 14 - 3
    Alex Pearce (Derby County) 09/11/1988 - 6 - 2
    Paul McShane (Reading) 06/01/1986 – 32 - 0

    Jon Walters (Stoke City) 20/09/1983 - 33 - 6
    Aiden McGeady (Everton) 04/04/1986 - 76 - 5
    Glenn Whelan (Stoke City) 13/01/1984 - 64 - 2
    James McCarthy (Everton) 12/11/1990 - 27 - 0
    Jeff Hendrick (Derby County) 31/01/1992 - 13 - 0
    Eunan O’Kane (Bournemouth) 10/07/1990 – 0 - 0
    Wes Hoolahan (Norwich City) 20/05/1982 - 19 - 2
    Stephen Quinn (Reading) 04/04/1986 - 12 - 0
    David Meyler (Hull City) 29/05/1989 - 13 - 0
    James McClean (West Bromwich Albion) 22/04/1989 - 30 - 4
    Anthony Pilkington (Cardiff City) 06/06/1988 - 8 - 1

    Shane Long (Southampton) 22/01/1987 - 54 - 12
    Robbie Keane (LA Galaxy) 08/07/1980 - 140 - 65
    Adam Rooney (Aberdeen) 21/04/1988 - 0 - 0
    Kevin Doyle (Colorado Rapids) 18/09/1983 - 61 - 14

    STAND-BY
    Alan Judge (Brentford) 11/11/1988 - 0 - 0
    Simon Cox (Reading) 28/04/1987 - 30 - 4
    Rob Elliot (Newcastle United) 30/04/1986 - 3 - 0
    Anthony Stokes (Celtic FC) 25/07/1988 - 9 - 0
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    Will there be another reduction or is that the final squad now?

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    Wait a minute - by my reckoning all the players cut from the squad are either injured or were placed on the standby list...except for one - and I'm not sure whether leaving David McGoldrick out is a good idea, given that he's got three goals in his last four games and that he got two assists on his debut for us. Surely, if there was a chance to experiment against Georgia and particularly Gibraltar, it would have been a good idea to give him some more game time with the other players, so that if we were in a situation where we had to go all-out in attack in later games, we could call on him to provide some extra speed and link play up front.

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    No way should Georgia be seen as an opportunity to experiment!

    Interesting to see Pilkington retained. Rooney and Doyle too. O'Kane has played himself into the squad on merit. As DeLorean said, maybe it's a good thing Murphy is injured as it'll take any idea of starting him over Long away from O'Neill's thoughts.

    28 is still large though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    No way should Georgia be seen as an opportunity to experiment!

    Interesting to see Pilkington retained. Rooney and Doyle too. O'Kane has played himself into the squad on merit. As DeLorean said, maybe it's a good thing Murphy is injured as it'll take any idea of starting him over Long away from O'Neill's thoughts.

    28 is still large though.
    i hope he does start long in both games but i would be surprised if he did. given mcgeady's form is there a case for playing long out wide? i'd prefer him up front but o'neill has in effect stated that he doesn't score enough.

    i don't really like the idea of experimentation at this stage, even against gibraltar so i'd like to see basically the same team in both games, one or two changes max. i can't see MON suddenly hitting on some great new selection / formation, i'd rather a settled team going into the last two games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    and I'm not sure whether leaving David McGoldrick out is a good idea
    McGoldrick rules out through injury also
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-due-to-injury

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    McGoldrick rules out through injury also
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-due-to-injury
    Of course he is...so much for my brilliant plan to put three up front for the last thirty against Gibraltar so that if we desperately need a late goal against Poland or Germany we could try it again in the knowledge that it won't be completely new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    Squad Watch

    Darren Randolph Started Clean Sheet
    David Forde Sub
    Shay Given Sub
    Rob Elliot Not in Squad
    Keiren Westwood Injured
    Seamus Coleman Started
    Richard Keogh Started
    John O'Shea Started
    Ciaran Clark Started
    Paul McShane Started
    Marc Wilson Sub(62)
    Alex Pearce Sub
    Stephen Ward Sub
    Cyrus Christie Not in Squad
    Greg Cunningham Injured
    Anthony Pilkington Started(90) Assist
    James McCarthy Started
    Jeff Hendrick Started
    Glenn Whelan Started
    Eunan O'Kane Started
    Alan Judge Started
    Stephen Quinn Started
    David Meyler Started
    Robbie Brady Started
    James McClean Started(62)
    Wes Hoolahan Started(31)
    Aiden McGeady Not in Squad
    Harry Arter Injured
    Kevin Doyle Started Goal
    Adam Rooney Started(76) Goal
    Robbie Keane Started
    David McGoldrick Sub(45) Goal
    Anthony Stokes Sub
    Simon Cox Sub
    Shane Long Sub
    Jon Walters Not in Squad
    Daryl Murphy Injured
    Decent number of starters there compared to what we often see going into these games.

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    Just a heads up for anyone else going to Electric Picnic this Friday, they will not be showing the qualifier at the festival - https://twitter.com/EPfestival/statu...04874548043776 - but they will be showing the hurling final on Sunday

    I'm actually a little surprised, Three are a big sponsor of the festival this year, and will have their own area on site
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    Didn't Bono call the Irish football team their best supporting act at Slane in 2001, after we beat the Netherlands! I had a ticket for that if I wanted it, but chose not to go as I was afraid I'd miss the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Just a heads up for anyone else going to Electric Picnic this Friday, they will not be showing the qualifier at the festival - https://twitter.com/EPfestival/statu...04874548043776 - but they will be showing the hurling final on Sunday

    I'm actually a little surprised, Three are a big sponsor of the festival this year, and will have their own area on site
    Where did you see that they are showing the hurling? I was planning a walk as far as the town for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
    Where did you see that they are showing the hurling? I was planning a walk as far as the town for that.
    On twitter: https://twitter.com/briano93/status/637987186357485568
    Also, they're not showing the football replay on Saturday: https://twitter.com/ColmOMara/status/638296608053047297
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
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    Not implying he's the long-term solution to our striking problems because I don't think he is (nor Daryl Murphy either), but what of Rooney for a start against Gibraltar? It's going to be warm which could tire the players likely to be involved in the Georgia game and he's got a good record in the SPL which is a good few levels above the Gibraltar defenders so he's likely to score and it won't do his confidence any harm either.

    Interesting side note I haven't seen picked up on, I actually googled the Gib squad there to see had they any defenders at all playing outside of the domestic league. Jamie Bosio plays with Ashford United (well down the ladder in England) and, according to his Wiki page, he was born in Dublin, Ireland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Bosio. He confirms it himself here: https://www.facebook.com/Footballout...46546705556493

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    Doyle and Keane to start for me, with Doyle & Long to partner each other at some stage with an eye on Georgia. I know its only Gibraltar but I wouldn't be giving Rooney a start. I'm never happy against these sides until we have a two goal lead.

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    Worth noting we struggled badly in the home game once Keane and Hoolahan were subbed off.

    Granted, we were 7-0 up at the stage, but Long and Doyle had half an hour to impress and didn't. I think Keane and Hoolahan are still key.

    No point taking liberties in this one. Keane has proven himself time and again to be lethal against the minnows.

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