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    While I agree in general, the people who loaned them the money are not equally at fault if Greece lied about their true position- which they did. In any case at this stage the money is owed to other countries and institutions.
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    I was reading that the retirement age in Greece is 54 and over 50% of the population live on a pension. Only 11% of the country pays taxes and it has the highest amount public servants in Europe. That can't be right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat View Post
    I was reading that the retirement age in Greece is 54 and over 50% of the population live on a pension. Only 11% of the country pays taxes and it has the highest amount public servants in Europe. That can't be right?
    cant believe what you hear. I heard the retirement age was 1 year higher than Germany and that the greeks work a longer working week than the germans

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    greeks work a longer working week than the germans
    That's not hearsay, but a fact according to Forbes.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danbigma...ch-or-germans/

    Yet Angela and her business leaders will have you think these people are the laziest in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat View Post
    I was reading that the retirement age in Greece is 54 and over 50% of the population live on a pension. Only 11% of the country pays taxes and it has the highest amount public servants in Europe. That can't be right?
    The average age of retirement for Greek men in 2012 was 61.9. In Germany, it was 62.1. Greeks also work longer hours on average, as demonstrated above. Over a fifth of the Greek population are pensioners; not 50 per cent.

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    To be honest the whole thing makes my head hurt!! I don't know what to believe or who is in the right or wrong. So the Greeks got themselves into to this mess. They basically have more going out than they take in and have borrowed beyond their means. They don't wont to pay back the their creditors or at least not at the rates agreed. So they more or less want us to carry the can for their mess.

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    Greece is crippled and has no way off paying back it's creditors and is looking for a break. Mean while the EU and IMF are applying the squeeze to the Greeks pay back their loans even if they can't. The Greeks are willing to pay but want a fairer deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyBlackCat View Post
    To be honest the whole thing makes my head hurt!! I don't know what to believe or who is in the right or wrong. So the Greeks got themselves into to this mess. They basically have more going out than they take in and have borrowed beyond their means. They don't wont to pay back the their creditors or at least not at the rates agreed. So they more or less want us to carry the can for their mess.

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    Greece is crippled and has no way off paying back it's creditors and is looking for a break. Mean while the EU and IMF are applying the squeeze to the Greeks pay back their loans even if they can't. The Greeks are willing to pay but want a fairer deal.
    The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Like 9/11:


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    There appears to be a little bit of nose rubbing going in the meeja, the Greeks have caved and all that. Terrible situation for the country.

    And maybe it's just me, but everything written in this thread about Greece - corrupt politicians, insider deals, golden circle etc etc - maybe it's just me, but it is Ireland but with sunshine.
    http://www.championat.com/bets/artic...r-week-16.html

    Giving the Russians a weekly taste of our glorious LOI!

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    It really isn't. We have our problems, but the country has been far better run than Greece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    It really isn't. We have our problems, but the country has been far better run than Greece.
    To a degree, but mainly because we're lucky to be english-speaking with solid backers, plus we're more than happy to do what's needed to get ahead. Cronyism, corruption and dodgy deals I'd almost feel sure in saying are on a par with Greece.
    http://www.championat.com/bets/artic...r-week-16.html

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    The NYT said that on one of the Islands, 8 percent of the pop had filed for benefits you get when you are blind, some additional 700 bucks a month or something. This included cab drivers and one guy who was a professional bird photographer. The percentage was something like 700 times the amount of blind people per 1000 people in the rest of europe. Hard to see what things like that have to do with Goldman Sachs.
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