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    Bishopstown not dead yet !!

    Planning permission fell through for the proposed sports campus on the old Bishopstown CCFC ground. The FAI were planning to sell it and it along with the UCC land would have become the site for the new capmus and a new road connecting the link road to CIT.

    Just wondering though ... what will become of Bishopstown now ... Will the FAI go ahead with the sale of it ??

    The article was in Inside Cork if anyone wants to read it !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    I saw that and wondered, is my mind playing tricks with me as I enter dotage. Was this where CCFC had their disastrous move, or was it where the Greyhound track is now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fair_play_boy
    Was this where CCFC had their disastrous move, or was it where the Greyhound track is now?
    They're one and the same place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    They're one and the same place.

    no they arent...they are next to each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    They're one and the same place.
    I asked the question badly. What I mean is, where was CCFC for the nightmare time out in Bishopstown; were they where the Greyhound track is now, or were they at the FAI ground pictured with the Inside Cork article?
    Still wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fair_play_boy
    I asked the question badly. What I mean is, where was CCFC for the nightmare time out in Bishopstown; were they where the Greyhound track is now, or were they at the FAI ground pictured with the Inside Cork article?
    Still wondering.
    The pic on Inside Cork is the pic of Citys old ground (dont know the name .. just Bishopstown park i suppose) taken from the greyhound track side.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    The fai should sell the land at a cheap price to CCFC and let us build our own stadium, put the money for the shed end towards it. sell the X and use that money too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storysham
    The fai should sell the land at a cheap price to CCFC and let us build our own stadium, put the money for the shed end towards it. sell the X and use that money too.
    That'll be hard to do !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    That'll be hard to do !!
    Pipe dream i know, club needs its own ground to move forward, not waste fai/government or the clubs money doing up a rented ground.

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    And so the legacy of Plonk's Elephante Bianco rumbles on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storysham
    The fai should sell the land at a cheap price to CCFC and let us build our own stadium, put the money for the shed end towards it. sell the X and use that money too.

    Back to Bishopstown??????? Oh goodie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storysham
    The fai should sell the land at a cheap price to CCFC and let us build our own stadium, put the money for the shed end towards it. sell the X and use that money too.
    Any money from the sale of TX would surely go to the MFA?

    To take something from your point though, the MFA and CCFC could develop a football campus/academy on the site.
    It could be used as a base for the National youth sides.
    We'd have a centre of excellence.
    We could nurture the talent of football in Munster at grass-roots level.
    Bishopstown is easy enough to get to for the lads from Kerry, Clare, Limerick, Tipp etc.
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    Bishopstown would be great idea now.

    Pros:
    1. There are roads actually going there now, AND a bus service.
    2. There is room there to build a clubhouse, which could include a bar, function room etc., all badly needed sources of income to the club.
    (Imagine the revenue Christmas parties could bring into the club, at the very time it is most needed).
    3. It would be City's ground, and not subject to the whims of the MFA.
    4. Room to expand. (Probably the most important thing)

    Cons:
    1. Cost of starting virtually from scratch.
    2. Bad history associated with the place.
    3. Emmm thats it really.....

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    Was part of the failure the last time that turners cross was still there, and people had one eye on it, grumbling about the trip out to the sticks? Bishopstown seemed so much farther away then.
    By the way, if the cross is sold, it would be a travesty. Too much history, tradition, too many memories to let slip under another two acres of concrete.
    Imagine the names of the shops or housing estates that would go in there? There could be some appropriate names though:
    Fenns Quay (uh, is that name taken already?)
    Softic Furnishings (groan )
    O'Flynn Interiors (where is this post going?)
    Can anybody do better than this please?
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    I think a lot of people are too hung up on tradition.
    Cork City FC is only 20 years old.
    If Arsenal and Liverpool can move grounds to facilitate progress then there's no reason why we can't move.
    For many city dwellers I think they felt Bishopstown was in the country and wasn't a natural home for CCFC.
    The success of the greyhound track is something we need to look at.
    This could work with the right attitude.
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    Bishopstown was ahead of its time & didn't have the infrastructure or support to maintain & grants from the fai/government are a lot more attainable now.

    I think it would be stupid to sell the cross as no use just having sports facilities in the outskirts of town as need them in city suburbs too.

    I keep saying it but IMO a complete waste to building single use facilities as sports should be sharing new stadiums (e.g. rugby & football) which also encourages government to give more grants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    Bishopstown was ahead of its time & didn't have the infrastructure or support to maintain & grants from the fai/government are a lot more attainable now.
    The infrastructure is critical. One (of many) good thing about the X is it easy enough to get to from any part of the City. If I had to get two buses and a twenty minute walk to get to a ground I might think twice if it was pouring rain - but then I'm just a sunshine supporter and I thought summer soccer was a bad idea
    don't worry, they couldn't hit an elephant at this dis......

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    Lads reading all the talk of buying stadiums can I suggest actually trying to buy the Cross.

    Let the MFA have Bishopstown and we'll take the Cross

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBaron69
    Lads reading all the talk of buying stadiums can I suggest actually trying to buy the Cross.

    Let the MFA have Bishopstown and we'll take the Cross
    The main attraction of Bishopstown is that there is room to build facilities like a bar etc. That room doesn't exist at the Cross, plus with so many houses so close to the ground, late night activities would be subject to a lot of objections. If there was any way of raising the money, Bishopstown would be the best stadium in the country, and it could be earn money for City. Bar, Function room, concerts could be held there etc. If the initial capital could be found, it's the future for City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsh
    The main attraction of Bishopstown is that there is room to build facilities like a bar etc.
    Plus, parking is a nightmare!
    The away team bus can't drive right up to the ground as specified in the criteria for the license.
    There are a host of other reasons that we could be here for months discussing.
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