Everton and Liverpool discussion

[anto1208]

They are rubbish but not at home (they had 7 shots to your 5). And football doesn't work out like you say, with teams above beating teams below them "quite easily". We'd all soon lose interest in the game if soccer was as simple as that. Look at Wigan vs Arsenal to name but one game. I also think you overestimate the strength of the Everton team.

Hence me saying they made hard work of it.

You have taken one result i think if you look at it you will find in general Utd arsenal chelsea etc all beat the teams below them thats why they are top.

Im not, Everton have a very good side if they did get champs league there would be a lot of money available to moyes to further strenghten it.

[bellavistaman]

i would give anything to see evereton finish fourth, on merit they deserve it alot more than liverpool, never works that way though.

[Roadend]

i would give anything to see evereton finish fourth, on merit they deserve it alot more than liverpool, never works that way though.

what is that supposed to mean? You deserve where you finish based on how many wins and draws you get.

[anto1208]

what is that supposed to mean? You deserve where you finish based on how many wins and draws you get.

Thats what i all ways thought but it was pointed out to me on here that when Everton did get fourth it turns out they didnt deserve it !!!

But that was from the same brain boxes that say Gerrard isnt a diver thank god they have all left the thread now.

I think liverpool will take it i think they have just got it together in time to save there season. Everton need to stop panicing and hoofing the ball all season they are playing really well get into a great posistion but got to play that Florentina game and fell apart got so nervous made so many mistakes did nothign right and fell back into hoof ball tactics. If moyes cant get rid of that ( drop neville ) they have no hope of keeping up with liverpool

[Roadend]

I hope Everton get fourth..........and Liverpool win the CL

[juan pablo]

INTER MILAN Vs LIVERPOOL
2nd Leg


Reina

Carragher Skrtel Hyppia Aurelio

Babel Lucas Mascherano Gerrard

Kuyt Torres


Quite a strong team for tonight's match, here's hoping everything goes to plan and we can get a goal early on and kill them off.

[bellavistaman]

no like liverpool do not deserve fourth imo this season benitez has fooled around with his team too many times, disrespected alot of clubs along the way. This season gerrard and carragher have said it is a total failure- all benitez fault, leaving torres on tyhe bench for home games is a disgrace, my friend flew over to watch them and he rested gerrard and torres no cl match midweek or anything, joke if that happened me if i supported liverpool id never support them again, now as for everton, they fought every minute of every game playing their strongest 11 and thats why i think on merit everton deserve but being honest 5th or 6th is where they will finish. Rant over on liverpool!!

[Maroon 7]

no like liverpool do not deserve fourth imo this season benitez has fooled around with his team too many times, disrespected alot of clubs along the way. This season gerrard and carragher have said it is a total failure- all benitez fault, leaving torres on tyhe bench for home games is a disgrace, my friend flew over to watch them and he rested gerrard and torres no cl match midweek or anything, joke if that happened me if i supported liverpool id never support them again, now as for everton, they fought every minute of every game playing their strongest 11 and thats why i think on merit everton deserve but being honest 5th or 6th is where they will finish. Rant over on liverpool!!

Torres has not started 3 league matches when fit enough to be in the squad this season - less than Ronaldo at Man U. On two of those occasions he was coming back from injury, on the other, Benitez kept the same team that had just beaten Besiktas 8-0, which Torres was left out of because he was coming back from injury. All three were in the first 3 months of a 23 year olds first season in a new league.

Torres has started 23 of 29 prem games, was injured twice, was sub in 3 games when coming back from injury and the last time he was rested when fully fit? Birmingham at home. All the way back in late September.

[jmurphyc]

This season gerrard and carragher have said it is a total failure- all benitez fault, leaving torres on tyhe bench for home games is a disgrace, my friend flew over to watch them and he rested gerrard and torres no cl match midweek or anything, joke if that happened me if i supported liverpool id never support them again, now as for everton, they fought every minute of every game playing their strongest 11 and thats why i think on merit everton deserve but being honest 5th or 6th is where they will finish. Rant over on liverpool!!

I don't see how it's all Benitez' fault, and Carragher and Gerrard haven't said it was his fault. Also, Gerrard and Torres haven't both been rested at the same time for a home league game. Both of them play practically every game. Benitez has done a very, very good job at Liverpool. The crap that the media have spouted about him is absolutely ridiculous. He's won as many major competitions as Ferguson has since he's taken over Liverpool.

[mypost]

But that was from the same brain boxes that say Gerrard isnt a diver thank god they have all left the thread now.

They haven't and he isn't.

[Roadend]

no like liverpool do not deserve fourth imo this season benitez has fooled around with his team too many times, disrespected alot of clubs along the way. This season gerrard and carragher have said it is a total failure- all benitez fault, leaving torres on tyhe bench for home games is a disgrace, my friend flew over to watch them and he rested gerrard and torres no cl match midweek or anything, joke if that happened me if i supported liverpool id never support them again, now as for everton, they fought every minute of every game playing their strongest 11 and thats why i think on merit everton deserve but being honest 5th or 6th is where they will finish. Rant over on liverpool!!

Nonsensicle rant aside, points won no matter what the circumstances determine where you deserve to finish.

[drinkfeckarse]

I dread to think where we would've ended up this season without Torres and Gerrard

[anto1208]

Yip watched the game last night and have to say torres is a class act, Liverpool played well but Gerrard and torres are the only stars on the team lots of muck still , Kuyt is one of the worst players ive seen in a long time.

Torres goal took an emmense amount of skill , really well taken if he stays fit liverpool should hold 4th the test will be the run of Utd arsenal and everton in a row.

[razor]

if he stays fit liverpool should hold 4th

You sound like you are trying to persuade yourself Pool will get 4th in the hope of it not happening.
I think Everton are very strong at the minute and should be favourites for 4th, after this weekend Pool have Manure away, Everton at home and Arse away in successive weeks, they'll tell a lot but can't see Pool getting much more than draws at OT or Emirates whereas Everton are at home to West Ham and Derby

[anto1208]

You sound like you are trying to persuade yourself Pool will get 4th in the hope of it not happening.
I think Everton are very strong at the minute and should be favourites for 4th, after this weekend Pool have Manure away, Everton at home and Arse away in successive weeks, they'll tell a lot but can't see Pool getting much more than draws at OT or Emirates whereas Everton are at home to West Ham and Derby

Yea and fulham before that and Birmingham after them which are 4 winable games . but we still have Liverpool , chelsea ,arsenal and villa in the run in which will be incredibly hard games. boro last day should be 3 points aswell.
There is 15 points we have to take which would give everton 71 points which is very high and would normally garuntee you 4th spot

Liverpool are in 4th spot and are in better form than everton even if everton match them point for point its still no good. But 5th would still be a success its just 4th would free up more money for moyes to spend.

[dfx-]

Kuyt is one of the worst players ive seen in a long time.

You saw Danny Cadamarteri and big Drunk didn't you?

[KildareFan]

You saw Danny Cadamarteri and big Drunk didn't you?

Cadamarteri had pace and big Dunc could head the ball so they both have one more attribute that they are good at than Kuyt who is just useless at everything.

Just leaving work now to make it over to the game. Travelling more in hope than expectation, if we pull this off, it will rank up there with the best ever performances in the club's history.

[anto1208]

Originally Posted by anto1208
Kuyt is one of the worst players ive seen in a long time

You saw Danny Cadamarteri and big Drunk didn't you?

Big dunk in his day was a very good player problem was for 80% of his carrer he was injured / unfit / suspended / in jail .

[juan pablo]

So anyone going to the Liverpool/Reading match this weekend, being my first time heading over as a Big Pool fan, do you think he will rest Torres?? I certainly hope not, he is a joy to watch this season but was thinking last night:

If you could partner him with a new TOP CLASS striker next season, who would it be??

[razor]

If you could partner him with a new TOP CLASS striker next season, who would it be??

I reckon Rafa bought the wrong Dutchman when he signed Kuyt (although Dirk has a decent record in derbies), Huntelaar would have been my pick.