Everton and Liverpool discussion

**papa-j** · 14/03/2006, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

oh great an other one of these i know more about football than you debates let me nip this in the butt right now .

target men gets goals and sets them up for his fellow strikers

crouch 7 goals 1 assist in 35 odd games end of discussion ,4 prem league goals 1 cup goal and i think 2 were from that friendly tournament that no one bar liverpool fans count . we ll say 5 goals in total

yip he is great

for a blue nose you sure are arrogant. Of course you would miss the main point in the post. Now take your time & read it again, then sit down & think rather than rattle off stats.

**dfx-** · 14/03/2006, 4:40 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

then sit down & think rather than rattle off stats.

Nah, that won't happen....I'd say half of anto's and mypost's posts have been statistics that suit their biased opinion - i.e. facts they pick out to suit them (instead of looking at how many Liverpool conceded, mypost looks at how many were scored etc. etc.) I'd give up if I were you.

Stats are perfect for the lazy, uneducated about football comments - pity they don't understand how the stats come about (i.e. not understanding football matches). Stats they can understand, but anyone can read stats, not everyone can understand football, it seems.

**Poor Student** · 14/03/2006, 5:20 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

for a blue nose you sure are arrogant. Of course you would miss the main point in the post. Now take your time & read it again, then sit down & think rather than rattle off stats.

Cool it down there papa-j.

**anto1208** · 14/03/2006, 9:27 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

Nah, that won't happen....I'd say half of anto's and mypost's posts have been statistics that suit their biased opinion - i.e. facts they pick out to suit them (instead of looking at how many Liverpool conceded, mypost looks at how many were scored etc. etc.) I'd give up if I were you.

Stats are perfect for the lazy, uneducated about football comments - pity they don't understand how the stats come about (i.e. not understanding football matches). Stats they can understand, but anyone can read stats, not everyone can understand football, it seems.

id dont need stats to know crouch is bad they are for ye're benifit as ye seem unable to crasp the concept that peter crouch is bad at football

also a point holds more weight if you back it up with a thing called facts aka stats rather than just the ramblings of a mad man .

maybe with ye're huge crasp of football knowlege ye can explain to me
1) what does atarget man do if he does nt score & does nt set up goals cant head & gives the ball away ,does nt defend has bad controll and is a poor passer . other than give ye a target for all the long balls hoofed up the pitch

**mypost** · 14/03/2006, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

why because he doesnt blindly follow like the rest of ye sheep

the very fact he doesnt rate crouch and wont accept second place proves he is a real fan that wants to see his team succeed rather than plod along like the rest of ye

My point exactly. Can't put it better than that!

Too many posters who claim to support the club here, have the Brian Kerr football mentality.

"Sure, so what if we failed to qualify for the World Cup, we were only losing in the qualification group for 20 minutes, weren't we? Aren't we great to have managed that. We only conceded 5 goals in the campaign, fantastic defensive record."

Where did it get us? 4th place in the group, and Brian Kerr the sack.

Winners win, also-rans console themselves. I want Liverpool, like Rovers and Ireland to win, not be collecting comfort crumbs for competing.

**Dillo** · 15/03/2006, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

for a blue nose you sure are arrogant.

What's that supposed to be mean??

The way the toffees are playing at the moment, blue noses can afford to be arrogant and cocky.

Peter Crouch m ar$e.

**Dillo** · 15/03/2006, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

for a blue nose you sure are arrogant.

What's that supposed to be mean??

The way the toffees are playing at the moment, blue noses can afford to be arrogant and cocky.

Peter Crouch me ar$e.

**anto1208** · 15/03/2006, 12:36 PM

Its typical liverpool fans they come on slag off beattie for being a waste of money some one who has scored 11 goals allready this season , when we point out crouch they get all defensive and pull out the old you know nothing about football responce .

i think regarding crouch as a good player and beattie as rubbish proves very well who doesnt know what there talking about .

**jockser** · 16/03/2006, 2:08 PM

Rafa to sign til 2010...GET IN!!!

**anto1208** · 20/03/2006, 10:01 AM

the toffees now in flying form 4 -1 vs villa pushing them up into the top half of the table and looking to lead a late charge on the europeen spots ,

**dfx-** · 20/03/2006, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

Scored less than 35 goals in 29 league games.
A yawning 20-point gap to the league leaders by March, and more worringly, increasing.

That is the bigger picture

1. 35 in 29 turns into 43 in 31. Still the second best defence in the country though.

2. An increasing 20 point gap? I think you'll find it has massively increased up to a whopping 14 point gap now.

3. More points than last year already.

4. More away wins than last year by February of this year.

Personally I'd prefer to be an also ran who had to put up with Crouch and sneaking second place with delusions of first place than playing beautiful Beattie and trying to sneak an Intertoto spot with delusions of adequacy.

**anto1208** · 20/03/2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

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Personally I'd prefer to be an also ran who had to put up with Crouch and sneaking second place with delusions of first place than playing beautiful Beattie and trying to sneak an Intertoto spot with delusions of adequacy.

then you should be happy so shut up moaning

**Dillo** · 20/03/2006, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

the toffees now in flying form 4 -1 vs villa pushing them up into the top half of the table and looking to lead a late charge on the europeen spots ,

It just keeps getting better and better!

Should maintain the winning streak on saturday too.

**mypost** · 20/03/2006, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

1. Still the second best defence in the country though.

2. 20 point gap? I think you'll find it has massively increased up to a whopping 14 point gap now.

3. More points than last year already.

4. More away wins than last year by February of this year.

In case you missed it earlier...

Originally Posted by me

Too many posters who claim to support the club here, have the Brian Kerr mentality. "Sure, so what if we failed to qualify for the World Cup, we were only losing in the qualification group for 20 minutes, weren't we? Aren't we great to have managed that. We only conceded 5 goals in the campaign, fantastic defensive record." Where did it get us? 4th place in the group, and Brian Kerr the sack.

Crumbs, crumbs, crumbs, cru....

**JoeSemi** · 20/03/2006, 9:50 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

Story of your life by the looks of it!

**jockser** · 21/03/2006, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by JoeSemi

Story of your life by the looks of it!

LOL the way he quotes HIMSELF to back up his arguements is hilarious!!

**dfx-** · 21/03/2006, 11:32 AM

Not forgetting that the quotes of himself used by himself miss the point entirely (still not missing it as much as a Drogba shot though

)..

**jockser** · 22/03/2006, 9:05 AM

15 goals in 3 games....lovely

right ! who is next for a whipping!!!???

**NeilMcD** · 22/03/2006, 9:11 AM

I think liverpool have been very good this season against the average and lowly clubs but when they have come up against the top teams they have failed. 2 defeats to Chelsea in the League. One point from Man Utd. 3 points from Liverpool.

There last 3 games have been handy games and that is why the up turn in their form. It was the same before and just after x mas that they went on a great run due to the fact that they had no hard games. The minute they had to play the top teams they went out of the Champions League and lost to Arsenal Chelsea and Man Utd.

**jockser** · 22/03/2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

I think liverpool have been very good this season against the average and lowly clubs but when they have come up against the top teams they have failed. 2 defeats to Chelsea in the League. One point from Man Utd. 3 points from Liverpool.

There last 3 games have been handy games and that is why the up turn in their form. It was the same before and just after x mas that they went on a great run due to the fact that they had no hard games. The minute they had to play the top teams they went out of the Champions League and lost to Arsenal Chelsea and Man Utd.

dont agree with you there, your arguement is way to simplistic and selective.. They lost to arsenal but beat them 2 weeks before that. they also beat manu in the cup 2 weeks after they lost in the league(the game they lost to manu at old trafford they were by far the better team) they lost to chelsea at stamford bridge......no harm in that as everyone looses there. They lost to benfica because they played very poorly NOT because benfica outplayed them.Your point on them winning 10 games in a row were all "handy" games is rediculous as there are very few "handy" games in the premiership.....if there were why dont the top teams do it all the time?

Its only liverpool 2nd season under Benitez and he has done a fantastic job and has improved the team greatly in each year. They will continue to get better and better under him.