Everton and Liverpool discussion

[anto1208]

16 games 0 goals ........10 attempts on goal 0 goals .......

[declan hide]

granted you see more at the actual game but what i will say is this....

just cos you go to a game doesnt mean you understand it more than someone watching on tv. (why do managers watch video footage?)

you obviously dont understand the game overly well...(dunno if youve played the game much but thats a different matter). on paper crouch looks useless. on the pitch hes been a different story and is playing well. hes also in the england squad.

giles and brady see this. i would rate their opinion a hell of a lot higher than your single minded slag liverpool agenda. crouchs goals will come. in fact lets hope he gets the winner against your lot...in fact your lot are so ****e right now he may get a hat-trick.

10 shots no goals. much better than no shots no goals. come in drunken duncan.

as for the "real" fans. again just cos they pay money and go to games doesnt mean they know it all about the football theyre watching. if i lived in liverpool i would go to the home games but i live in cork/limerick so i go to all the cork/limerick home games instead.

[jockser]

Anything taken from .tv or from Tomkins is pure unadulterated rubbish and can be dismissed out of hand. As he says "I'd like to think I am well informed on all matters Liverpool".

Thomkins writes by FAR the best articles on LFC. No one else comes close
He has been writting excellent articles since 2000 on LFC matters on different fans sites (including that poisonous koktalk) and thats why the official site have recently employed him.

[anto1208]

granted you see more at the actual game but what i will say is this....

just cos you go to a game doesnt mean you understand it more than someone watching on tv. (why do managers watch video footage?)

you obviously dont understand the game overly well...(dunno if youve played the game much but thats a different matter). on paper crouch looks useless. on the pitch hes been a different story and is playing well. hes also in the england squad.

giles and brady see this. i would rate their opinion a hell of a lot higher than your single minded slag liverpool agenda. crouchs goals will come. in fact lets hope he gets the winner against your lot...in fact your lot are so ****e right now he may get a hat-trick.

10 shots no goals. much better than no shots no goals. come in drunken duncan.

as for the "real" fans. again just cos they pay money and go to games doesnt mean they know it all about the football theyre watching. if i lived in liverpool i would go to the home games but i live in cork/limerick so i go to all the cork/limerick home games instead.

well i know more about the game than most by that i dont mean ive learnt off a load of names and dates but about how the game is played .

did i play yes i did , but does that make a difference i know people that have played semi pro and still dont have a clue what there talking about .

the very fact you are trying to argue crouch's case explains a lot, what excuse is it today "we didnt buy a striker to score goals" , or other such jems.

id go to cork/limerick games if it was worth the tenner , its not . so i dont go .

surely you as a EL fan dont support a english team ??

[jockser]

the very fact you are trying to argue crouch's case explains a lot, what excuse is it today "we didnt buy a striker to score goals" , or other such jems.

The fact he got man of the match means we dont have to explain anything to people who THINK they know the game.....

[anto1208]

The fact he got man of the match means we dont have to explain anything to people who THINK they know the game.....

that could just mean the rest of the team were rubbish , no way he deserved mom 2 open goals from inside the 6 yard box and he misses , 10 attempts on goal no goal ... gerrard was much better than crouch was last night he set up pratically every chance he had .

[jockser]

that could just mean the rest of the team were rubbish

i rest my case......

[anto1208]

i rest my case

he got a man of the match award in a game in which liverpool were terrible ,playing a poor side and didnt score ... thats what your resting your arguement on

but i didnt expect you to make a point, why break with habit

[jockser]

he got a man of the match award in a game in which liverpool were terrible ,playing a poor side and didnt score ... thats what your resting your arguement on

but i didnt expect you to make a point, why break with habit

can i see the reports where it says we were terrible please.....or is that your analysis coz you are a REAL fan who KNOWS how to read a game???

[anto1208]

you are a REAL fan who KNOWS how to read a game???

thank you !!

the first intelligent thing you ve said

[declan hide]

its blindingly obvious that other posters to this "discussion" have stopped responding to antos moronics. from this point forward i shall so the same.

[anto1208]

its blindingly obvious that other posters to this "discussion" have stopped responding to antos moronics. from this point forward i shall so the same.

what are you like , cant win an arguement so you quit "im taking my ball and going home" .what moranic statement done it, was it the one where i said season ticket holders are better fans than some one you goes to the pub to watch a game ? thats just common sence .
Grow up FFS .

[JoeSemi]

I think its easy for anto and other evertonians to dish out the abuse at Crouch as a way of masking the troubles at their own club. The current fad among the media and other suporters is to bash Crouch at every opportunity. The goals haven't arrived yet but how many other clubs would take Liverpool's position of last 16 in the champions league playing a striker who contributes enormously to the team, but has yet to score himself? Yes, he cost 7 million and is a striker. So what? The stats somebody else mentioned don't lie and as much as I'd like to see Crouchy scoring asap I couldn't care less if Liverpool keep winning and he picks up the man of the match award every time(without scoring). I know the bluenoses would love a current English international striker in their ranks and it must irk them that a goalless striker across town is getting the nod ahead of their 5m bloated brute from Blackburn who has the sum total of 2 goals himself, and f**k all else to his game. Which of the two will go to the World Cup and who'll be getting fatter next summer? We all know the answer to that one, provided injury doesn't set in along the way. Eriksson, McClaren and Benitez can't all be wrong and time will prove their judgements 100% correct, if it hasn't already done so.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

I think its easy for anto and other evertonians to dish out the abuse at Crouch as a way of masking the troubles at their own club. The current fad among the media and other suporters is to bash Crouch at every opportunity. The goals haven't arrived yet but how many other clubs would take Liverpool's position of last 16 in the champions league playing a striker who contributes enormously to the team, but has yet to score himself? Yes, he cost 7 million and is a striker. So what? The stats somebody else mentioned don't lie and as much as I'd like to see Crouchy scoring asap I couldn't care less if Liverpool keep winning and he picks up the man of the match award every time(without scoring). I know the bluenoses would love a current English international striker in their ranks and it must irk them that a goalless striker across town is getting the nod ahead of their 5m bloated brute from Blackburn who has the sum total of 2 goals himself, and f**k all else to his game. Which of the two will go to the World Cup and who'll be getting fatter next summer? We all know the answer to that one, provided injury doesn't set in along the way. Eriksson, McClaren and Benitez can't all be wrong and time will prove their judgements 100% correct, if it hasn't already done so.

Great post Joe, sensible comments as always. I'm becoming a fan of the likeable Crouchy. The lad is a breath of fresh air in a sport that is bursting with large egos. His commitment and hard work illustrate his merits. He contributes so much to the team. His first touch and technique are rare, if not unheard of in a player of his size. He's still a young man, a little similar in stature to a young Niall Quinn. If he becomes physically stronger in the same way as Quinn did, he has a big future ahead of him. Crounch had 8/9 attempts on goal on Wednesday night. That shows character from a player that is undergoing a goal-scoring drought. The likes of Lineker, Shearer and Owen have all suffered droughts in front of goal. It's only a matter of time before Crouch gets on the scoresheet and the goals begin to flow. In the meantime, he will continue to help Liverpool win tricky away games against the likes of Villa. Any Liverpool fan will be happy that Crouch is an excellent acquisition.

[4tothefloor]

5m bloated brute from Blackburn who has the sum total of 2 goals himself, and f**k all else to his game.

Couldn't have put it better myself. That's the difference between the two.

Which of the two will go to the World Cup and who'll be getting fatter next summer?

Hopefully Crouch, on both counts!

[JoeSemi]

Everton are officially the lowest scorers out of all the teams in the five major European leagues with an astounding figure of 5 goals Thats the whole Everton team with 5 goals more than Peter Crouch. I think it may be wise for certain evertonians to look at getting their own house in order before slagging off any other club or player.

[Dillo]

Which of the two will go to the World Cup and who'll be getting fatter next summer? We all know the answer to that one, provided injury doesn't set in along the way. .

In fairness Crouchy wouldn't put on weight if ya had him on bull nuts for 9 months. Sure there's not a pick on the lanky string! A strikers role is to score goals and crouchy hasn't broke the duck in 17 games! Morientes has as much pace as me granny and the less said about Cisse the better. Typical of you though JoeSemi- i've never once heard you run down a Liverpool player. You're namesake Josemi was the spanish Carragher up to no length ago sure!


Things are beginning to look rosy again on the blue side though. Big Joe Yobo came up trumps today and made up for recent shaky performances with a fine header to send that pr!ck souness home pointless. The toffees are at last out of the bottom three and will make that expected surge up the table in the coming weeks.

[sligoman]

Wouldn't be too worried about that Sligoman, Utd are up sh!t creek in the long term.

They're still gonna finish higher than Liverpool this season!.

[mypost]

Well over at the Red Half, things are improving for a change. No surprise really, as European Champions are expected to beat the likes of West Ham, Aston Villa, Man City, and Portsmouth on a regular basis.

As for Peter Crouch, this bloke continues to defy belief, as the score after 4,5 months of the season is still: Jamie Carragher 1-0 Peter Crouch!!

[jockser]

Can you come back and post after we have played our next 8 games which are
Blackburn – home
Fulham – away
West Ham – home
Villa – away
Portsmouth - Home
Man City – away
Wigan – home
Boro – home

...........he is back!!!