Everton and Liverpool discussion

**drinkfeckarse** · 27/02/2007, 7:50 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

If you have to cheat to win then whats the point ?

Don't know Anto, maybe you should ask Andy Johnson?

**casso36** · 28/02/2007, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

The defender manhandled him

If you have to cheat to win then whats the point ?

Well if you can't beat em!! join em!!!

**BohsPartisan** · 28/02/2007, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by casso36

Well if you can't beat em!! join em!!!

Apparantly someone said that to Gazza and now he's getting a sex-change!

**papa-j** · 28/02/2007, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

the defenders arm's were around stevie stopping him making a run-obstruction.now in fairness stevie made sure the ref knew about it but the defender was stupid enough to do it

any other part of the pitch and its a free...no question. In the box and its a penalty...no question. Stevie drew the refs attention to the obstruction and the naive defender continued to foul..how s that cheating? Does Peter Stringer cheat when he calls for a penalty for infringing during ruck time???
Different sport same princible. Its called professionalism and is nowhere near the blatant dives of Drogba, Ronaldo etc

**anto1208** · 28/02/2007, 11:22 AM

Gotta love liverpool fans when there is no contact there is "intent" when liverpool dont score the other team wouldnt let them play !!!

Since Gerrard didnt have the ball there can be no obstruction, the defender is under no obligation to get out of gerrards way, he was blocking the run which he is entitled to do in the same way gerrard is blocking his run it is 6 one 1 ….

Simple fact is Gerrard cheated again against Sheffield Utd. FFS stop trying to justify it .

**Roadend** · 28/02/2007, 12:34 PM

If gerrard cheated, the ref cheated as he watched the entire incident unfold.

**papa-j** · 28/02/2007, 1:29 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

Gotta love liverpool fans when there is no contact there is "intent" when liverpool dont score the other team wouldnt let them play !!!

Since Gerrard didnt have the ball there can be no obstruction, the defender is under no obligation to get out of gerrards way, he was blocking the run which he is entitled to do in the same way gerrard is blocking his run it is 6 one 1 ….

Simple fact is Gerrard cheated again against Sheffield Utd. FFS stop trying to justify it .

Blocking a run, holding a player, tripping a player, pulling a players shirt, punching a player or headbutting a player...with or without the ball is a foul.
Learn the rules.

**mypost** · 28/02/2007, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

If you have to cheat to win then whats the point ?

It would be easier to listen to someone's view, if it wasn't from a fan of the club that needed a penalty to beat Watford on opening day, given for a headed clearance.

As he was fouled in the box, the Gerrard penalty incident was a stonewall penalty. Mind you, dfx doesn't think so, but then again, this is the only LFC poster who says Gerrard dived for the penalty to equalise in Istanbul.....

**anto1208** · 28/02/2007, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

It would be easier to listen to someone's view, if it wasn't from a fan of the club that needed a penalty to beat Watford on opening day, given for a headed clearance.

As he was fouled in the box, the Gerrard penalty incident was a stonewall penalty. Mind you, dfx doesn't think so, but then again, this is the only LFC poster who says Gerrard dived for the penalty to equalise in Istanbul.....

Its a stonewall peno now !!!!!! there would be 40 peno's in a game if they where all given !!

your point would have been very good bar after that watford game Moyes came out and said that it WASNT A PENO and even added that if the ball had have hit his hand he reckoned it still shouldnt have been given as the defender made an honest attempt to block the ball .

also i think on that same day that everton won liverpool managed a draw with sheffield Utd how did they get the draw gerrard dived to win another "soft peno !!!!!!

spot the difference

"suckering" as ye call it , i call it plain old cheating.

**dfx-** · 28/02/2007, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

Blocking a run, holding a player, tripping a player, pulling a players shirt, punching a player or headbutting a player...with or without the ball is a foul.
Learn the rules.

^

I'm just going to keep pointing out this post to anto1208 so he can't ignore it

**anto1208** · 28/02/2007, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

^

I'm just going to keep pointing out this post to anto1208 so he can't ignore it

i am going to ignore it because gerrard wasnt tripped ,punched or headbutted ye are really dragging the **** out of it now .If i wait untill tommorow the poor sheff utd player will be up on rape charges the way ye are going .

there was a tiny bit of pulling and dragging by both players the ref had a word then gerrard dived End of story , its supposed to be a mans game its no wonder his missus had to go looking else where

Anyway gerrard cheated that’s been established what im on about is the hypocrisy of Liverpool fans who keep going on about AJ Ronaldo and Drogba .

**anto1208** · 28/02/2007, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

anto they should be given everytime.gary neville aginst spurs is one that got away that springs to mind.nine times out of ten if the attacker done it the defender gets the free,it should be the same both ways.i think your just letting your true bitter side come out in you

Id say something if he was going for the ball the defender pulled him and he missed the chance but he was nt even looking at the ball he was looking back at the ref screaming like a big girl .

**dfx-** · 28/02/2007, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by papa-j

Blocking a run, holding a player, tripping a player, pulling a players shirt, punching a player or headbutting a player...with or without the ball is a foul.
Learn the rules.

.......anto

**mypost** · 01/03/2007, 4:41 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

he was nt even looking at the ball he was looking back at the ref screaming like a big girl.

Regardless of how it looked, it is still a stonewall penalty, which was given. Unlike most timid refs, this one had the bls to give it.

Would there be 40 pen's in every match? No chance. As soon as the refs start awarding them, it'll stop.

**casso36** · 01/03/2007, 7:41 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

Gotta love liverpool fans when there is no contact there is "intent" when liverpool dont score the other team wouldnt let them play !!!

Since Gerrard didnt have the ball there can be no obstruction, the defender is under no obligation to get out of gerrards way, he was blocking the run which he is entitled to do in the same way gerrard is blocking his run it is 6 one 1 ….

Simple fact is Gerrard cheated again against Sheffield Utd. FFS stop trying to justify it .

Well he has watching Andy to long!!!!!

**anto1208** · 01/03/2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs

antp seriously your the one going on about it if the defender moved his arms out of the way stevie falls on his own cos hes not looking where hes going and looks a tit.the defender is to blame.like i said your showing your true bitter colours now your season is over

you can wrap it up anyway you like and throw your moronic slags that you dont understand,that you just heard some one else saying all you like it doesnt change a thing , Gerrard had to cheat against sheffield utd

**drinkfeckarse** · 01/03/2007, 10:56 AM

Please stop digging Anto....

**BohsPartisan** · 01/03/2007, 11:11 AM

It was a penalty.

**anto1208** · 01/03/2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Please stop digging Anto....

what are you going on about now ??

Im not the one trying to defend the undefendable talk to your fellow red****es who are claiming he was punched headbutted tripped pulled to the ground and gang raped .

winner of dive of the week

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