Under 21 Final

[patsh]

All I see is you attacking the poster and not the post again. And making absolutely no points to back your "argument" up.

Again, enough about you......

[pineapple stu]

Again, enough about you......

[patsh]

Yawwwwnnnnnnnnnn

[joe]

There were 350 at that game, not 100.

Is that the official attendance? Just wondering because it doesn't match up with the share of the gate that City were given.

[pineapple stu]

Is that the official attendance? Just wondering because it doesn't match up with the share of the gate that City were given.

Nope - that's just a hungover guesstimate. Though I thought there had at least been as many, if not more, than at the Kilkenny game. Didn't bother counting this time... It also would include freebies.

joe - he's referring to attendance at the sligo rovers game. and i can tell you now for a fact there definitely was never 350 there.

At most I would say maybe 200. If they cant get that many for their first team then hardly gonna get anything like that for under 21 game.

The attendance v. Sligo was hand-counted and was 342, if memory serves. It's down as 300 on your own website. There were a few from other clubs at the game on Sunday, which would bring up the crowd as well.

[patsh]

Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
There were 350 at that game, not 100. Please don't post false attendances to get a cheap dig at the club again.

I did not post this.

[pineapple stu]

I did not post this.

No, that's my post to clarify any confusion. Don't know how your name got there!

[Schumi]

joe - he's referring to attendance at the sligo rovers game. and i can tell you now for a fact there definitely was never 350 there.

There were 342 at the game. I counted it myself.

[pete]

ref made Stokes from friday night look very good indeed.

Shane Long was best player on the pitch which is why UCD had to "take him out". Once he scored a cracking opening goal he was firstly almost decaputated by UCD defender & 5-10 minutes later the job was finished which i thinkld efender may have got yellow card for.

No problems with 1st penalty as was idiotic tackle by Lopes (makes Kevin Murray look good).

Whatever about the physical nature of UCD (only Behan was matching from city really) the level of outright cheating the ref allowed UCD away with was straggering. Fullback almost complated a sumersauth from Behan "tackle" which he did connect would surely have meant 2nd yellow card. UCD players laughing in refs face about "foul" was ludicrous.

Forward then took crazy dive in front of city support...ref allowed play to continue...then went over to player & asked him to get up & never booked him with no foul given either. Linesman not even bother to offer suggestion to ref. Ref also missd elbow on Guthrie who had to be restrained afterwards.

2nd penalty was bizarre as whatever about the foul which was dubious was crazy to give red card for genuine effort to get ball & keeper not even last man. :rollyes:

At 2-1 to UCD, City completely dominated with 10 men with deserved equaliser & for UCD to score with first chance since scored penalty.

City by far better team & robbed ref decisions but can partially blame themselves for not starting to play til down to 10 men.

btw someone would want to teach UCD players how to celebrate without taunting supporters as a proper league would sanction such efforts.

[pineapple stu]

2nd penalty was bizarre as whatever about the foul which was dubious was crazy to give red card for genuine effort to get ball & keeper not even last man. :rollyes:

Keeper simply pushed Sammon out of the way, as I saw it. If that was the case, he had to walk as Sammon was just going to round him and slot the ball home. It's a clear goalscoring chance, not the last man, which defines a professional foul - which does make a bit of a difference if the person in question is the keeper; much more of a clear goalscoring chance if the keeper's out of the game even if there's a defender coming back.

btw someone would want to teach UCD players how to celebrate without taunting supporters as a proper league would sanction such efforts.

Don't want to condone that, but in fairness, the Cork fans brought it on themselves by calling our players cheats when they were quite clearly receiving medical treatment. Harvest what you reap and all that.

I see you're still turning a blind eye to the Cork challenges...

[Colm]

How did all the members of the "Abbeyleix Thirteen" finish out their night?..

A good few of us ended up back in the Rochestown Park. I went home at around 1.30 but I believe it was 6.15am by the time a certain member of our bus group left the hotel!

On the attendance, a few of us did a quick head count and we reckoned it was in the region of 140 people of which half were City fans.

I'm not going to bother doing a detailed review of the game but suffice to say that we were absolutely robbed by yet another crooked ref, a spineless linesman and a bunch of cheating thugs posing as a football team.
I spoke to both Stuart Ashton and Pat Dolan after the game and they were both fuming over the performance of the ref and the actions of teh UCD players.

I have never seen a team dive and fake injury so much in one game as UCD did yesterday, they were an absolute disgrace.
As for them celebrating and gesturing to us, they were only serving to further antagonise an already angry and tense set of supporters.
A few of the UCD "fans" weren't much better after the game. About 3 scumbags thought it would be smart to have a little go at us and then ran a mile when a few of our lads reacted!

It will be a shame and a misery to have UCD back in the Premier Divison. It will bring great joy to all el fans the day when yourselves and Dublin City fianlly vanish off the face of the earth.

[balls]

is shane long seriously injured. how long will he be out for. he is one of the best young talents in domestic game.

[pete]

Seen second "penalty" on eL weekly last night & McNulty just jumped to block the forwards shot who scuffed it so McNulty was landing when forward tried to run under him. Ref was right next to so can't see how he gave a red card for it.

[Éanna]

Seen second "penalty" on eL weekly last night & McNulty just jumped to block the forwards shot who scuffed it so McNulty was landing when forward tried to run under him. Ref was right next to so can't see how he gave a red card for it.

being honest, I don't even think it was a penalty. It was accidental obstruction at worst, IMO he'd lost control of the ball. there was also AT LEAST one player behind the keeper, so he wasn't last man. crazy decision.

[Poor Student]

It will be a shame and a misery to have UCD back in the Premier Divison. It will bring great joy to all el fans the day when yourselves and Dublin City fianlly vanish off the face of the earth.

With a successful youth and scholarship set up restored, and a pretty decent team at the moment who sent none other than yourselves out of the cup I don't see us going anywhere in tat direction soon. Enjoy the trip(s) to Belfield next year.

[pineapple stu]

It will be a shame and a misery to have UCD back in the Premier Divison. It will bring great joy to all el fans the day when yourselves and Dublin City finally vanish off the face of the earth.

As indeed it is a shame and a misery to hear the Cork fans' appalling inability to take any sort of defeat without introducing some sort of conspiracy theory or scapegoat. It will bring great joy to all eL fans the day when you finally learn to accept defeat with good grace and consider that not every decision against you is wrong, that not every player who goes down under a tackle is a diver and that not every Cork player is a saint (still no-one mentioning the heavy challenges from the Cork team).

God knows what sort of unintelligible diatribe this will provoke. However, you may save your fingers as if you aren't going to come up with anything other than the above, I'm not going to bother returning to this thread.

[Colm]

(still no-one mentioning the heavy challenges from the Cork team).

I honestly don't remember any very bad challenges from City players, certainly nothing in the same league as what the UCD players were doing.
In the bus on the way back down we were all actually saying that it's a pity that our players didn't make a few dirty challenges and stand up to the thuggery of the UCD players. I still believe that if we had been more physical we would have won the game easily.

God knows what sort of unintelligible diatribe this will provoke.

Why do UCD and Dublin City fans always try to take an intellectually superior stance in order to gain some sort of advantage over the opposition fans they are debating with? It's something I've noticed quite a few times and in truth it only serves to make you look like stuck up assh0les.

[patsh]

still no-one mentioning the heavy challenges from the Cork team

YOU still haven't acknowledged, indeed even mentioned, the blatent diving and cheating of the UCD players,the viciousness of some of their tackles and the incredibly bad performance of the ref.
When you acknowldge that, maybe we can talk about the game as it actually happened, not what you imagined went on.

God knows what sort of unintelligible diatribe this will provoke. However, you may save your fingers as if you aren't going to come up with anything other than the above, I'm not going to bother returning to this thread.

"unintelligible diatribe"...awww, we don't make sense to the little college boy.....

Bye, Bye......

[pineapple stu]

YOU still haven't acknowledged, indeed even mentioned, the blatent diving and cheating of the UCD players,the viciousness of some of their tackles and the incredibly bad performance of the ref.

My very first post on this thread -

Yes, we put in a couple of heavy challenges,

Want to check things before making easily debunked allegations in future?

The ref lost control of the game, in my opinion - does that make you feel better?

I honestly don't remember any very bad challenges from City players, certainly nothing in the same league as what the UCD players were doing.

Well, at least you're trying! I've mentioned three or four in my posts - our no 2 was wrestled to the ground at one stage by your number 9 (Behan?) and was caught with a nasty late challenge at one stage in the second half as well (after which all the Cork fans started calling him a cheat - hardly any wonder that the UCD players reacted to the fans the way they did), while another player was shoved fairly hard in the back as he went up for a header from a throw. It's interesting that you accuse one of our players of diving spectcularly on the half-way line (and I remember the incident, and will admit I thought it was a bit over the top), but when I saw the first penalty on TV3, Gannon was sent flying through the air in very much the same way, and yet yez agree that was a definite penalty. If you hack someone in full flight, he's going to go flying - doesn't mean it's a dive, even if looks like a 9.8-er.

To be honest, I don't remember much about the UCD-physicalness yez're are referring to (there are very few specific examples given). The clash of heads on the far side was accidental as I saw it - the Cork lad went up arseways into the header which didn't help. The tackle afterwards I didn't see properly, but from what I've heard, it could easliy have been a red, although again it's been exaggerated here. Other than those, you've not given too many examples...

On the second penalty, incidentally, the red card is issued for denying a player a clear goalscoring opportunity. Last man has nothing to do with it. If the last man is a defender on the line and the forward is about to round the keeper when he's fouled, that's denying the player a clear goalscoring opportunity. I'll retract my initial "cynical" analysis of the foul having seen it on TV, but it was clumsy and definitely prevented a goalscoring chance, therefore he had to be sent off.

God knows what sort of unintelligible diatribe this will provoke.

Go away ya pr*ck and take your blinkers off.

Go way ya l*nger..... City SHOULD have dished it out

It will be a shame and a misery to have UCD back in the Premier Divison. It will bring great joy to all el fans the day when yourselves and Dublin City fianlly vanish off the face of the earth.

Make sense to you now? If you're so worried about us being or acting intellectually superior, maybe you should come away from the level in the quotes above and not drag us all down to it. It's ironic that youz call us assh0les while posting the likes of the above.

[Colm]

If you're so worried about us being or acting intellectually superior.

Forget "being", it's definately just acting!