Cheers Pablo. I will post their reply if any.
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Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere - Martin Luther King Jnr.
Ive only realised this recently but Anthony Buttimer and Alan Kelly both seem to ref in Dublin nearly every week,and yet City,who have played 10 games in Dublin in the league this year,have not had a match refed by either.Can anyone explain that?Its kinda odd if theres a shotage of refs.Surely by the law of averages they should have refed at least 1 of citys games in dublin?
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Thank your lucky stars youse haven't had Buttimer. He ref'ed Rovers V Pats last week and he must've thought it was a bogball match cos he let about a dozen handballs go unpunished. In fairness, he wasn't biased as both teams were at it - one, in front of the stand by Aidan O'Keefe, was so blatant we could see i from the Camac. I'd say Aido was giggling to himself as he headed up the pitch.
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I suppose by the laws of averages & considering the playing population & number of clubs from dublin you'd expect 3-4 dublin refs from the 6 refs every week.
Sign of bad ref is usually the number of times he blows the whistle & the unwillingness to play advantage or allow quick free kicks.
I can't see any circumstance that was penalty on friday as he would surely have to send off Devine as he by long way last man & especially if it was outside the box but then of course couldn't be a penalty then.
Strangely Stokes seem to run of free kick quota in 2nd half as he much less intrusive.
Not defending the ref by any means....but after seeing the incident on the TV (and after calming down) I can see why he gave it. From his position it must have looked a peno, on the night I thought it was outside the box but the collision happened just inside the corner of the box. TBH I can't tell if it's a peno or not and that's after watching it about 30 times, it looks too close to me. The ref should have given Mick a red card though if he stuck to the rules....
From any position in the ground it was plain to see that Devine nicked away the ball. Maybe from his position, there was enough in it to get away with awarding a peno, if he was questioned on it afterwards.Originally Posted by hoofball
Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere - Martin Luther King Jnr.
if the player got the ball the ball would have gone forward or a bit to either side but it went out of play on the side line proving devine got the ball.
Life isn't all beer and football...some of us haven't touched a football in months
I presume after getting only 50% of the above right (the first part) - the same as the ref in the game - that you're going to write yourself off as being as poorly informed about refereeing as you're making the ref out to be? Or that you'll remember your own errors when next you (partly at least) wrongly criticise a ref?
And after all the whingeing about refs, and too many Dublin refs, and all sorts, nobody has actually said anything about doing something practical and taking a course to become a ref. Yes, they're far from perfect (and bear in mind that I've seen First Division refs!
), but what's whining about it going to do?
Likewise, I'd like to apologise to anyone offended by the many profanities I screamed at Mr StokesI suppose you get used to poor performances, but isn't Stokes the guy who didn't give Flynny a peno in Tolka and who gave at least two late and very soft penos against City in away games last season (Derry and Longford)?
That goes beyond incompetent and into the realm of bias and cheating.
He should never ref a City game again.
Sorry to the young kids around me last night for all the cursing and abuse aimed at that man - I'm usually much quieter.
After watching EL weekly last night, I can confirm what I thought at the game. THAT WAS NEVER A PENALTY IN A MILLION YEARS!!!
Ian Stokes, you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope I never have to see your pitiful face ever again. I hope the referees department of the FAI demote you to under 11's girls football. It's about your level.
Football is life. The rest is mere detail...
Do the eL have a complaints type email address?
j'accuse!
And Kelly had the nerve to bring him into the East Village after the game with his 2 midgets, If I was there he'd have got a piece of my mind.Ian Stokes, you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope I never have to see your pitiful face ever again. I hope the referees department of the FAI demote you to under 11's girls football. It's about your level.
I am signing up for the next refs course, the way I look at it is there are so many bad refs out there that no matter how bad I am, I wouldn't be anywhere near the worst.
Refs like that degrade football in this country.
Do they usually go there after games??
I think the Rebel Army might have our post match night out in the east Village next time Mr. Stokes is in town!
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And do what precisely?
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
Have a little chat!And do what precisely?
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About the weather no doubt?
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
Yeah and other general things like traffic, politics, music and.................................... crooked referees!!!!
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This reminds me of the "We know where your car is" chant, a young wah roared it 1 day, and this huge fella turns around and says "What are you gonna do, fill it with petrol?!"
j'accuse!
Was sitting in the vicinity of Pat Kelly, an assessor for EL referees and heard him say that there was no way it was a penalty. Took up the point with him, then he said that we should never have gotten pen against derry few wks previous, so it all balanced out. What an idiot!!!
I hope you do the course Razor, referee some matches and then come back and tell the forum what a hard, thankless job the referee has. Fans look at decisions as good or bad depending on whether it went for or against their team.....
Look forward to see if you are still a referee in two years time!!
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